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Post by tennesseebee on Aug 6, 2012 16:13:25 GMT -5
In real life the hand washing for meals was done on the back porch for most of the year. Most anything where water was involved was done on the porch as much as possible. The Waltons did have "inside plumbing" but for homes like I grew up in none, any water source was outside where water was drawn up from the well with a bucket. But like on the Waltons, I never felt poor!
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Post by mercantile on Aug 6, 2012 16:18:20 GMT -5
In real life the hand washing for meals was done on the back porch for most of the year. Most anything where water was involved was done on the porch as much as possible. The Waltons did have "inside plumbing" but for homes like I grew up in none, any water source was outside where water was drawn up from the well with a bucket. But like on the Waltons, I never felt poor!
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Post by JeriJet on Aug 7, 2012 10:51:52 GMT -5
At my grandma's farm house, they still had a small hand pump at the kitchen sink, in addition to the big pump outside. But -- they had a huge bathroom put in upstairs in the early forties...... always thought it odd that they didn't change the kitchen sink at the same time. She actually boiled water on an old Franklin stove to do dishes ! It wasn't until the mid 70's that they put in faucets at the sink.....
That bathroom (which had originally been a small bedroom) was so large that they eventually had a clothes washer and dryer installed up there -- and there was still room to do sit-ups !!!
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Post by bucky on Aug 7, 2012 18:38:02 GMT -5
This thread is much too interesting not to jump in. In my neck of the woods, indoor bathrooms were one of the last improvements to be made to farm houses, simply because the money went to more important things first. Many people didn't see them as necessary. I remember the men, who worked outside, always washing up - and yes, in the kitchen sink - but being a pretty clean little kid, I don't remember being nagged to do it myself. And even as kids, we ate with utensils, not our fingers. We weren't southern so no fried chicken and biscuits for us I think we're all too paranoid about germs these days. I may be cleaner but I'm probably not any better for it.
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Post by marylou01 on Aug 7, 2012 19:18:54 GMT -5
bucky, you're right about being paranoid! I'm germaphoic and also OCD. I can't stand to eat at a buffet, just seeing everyone touch the serving spoons makes my skin crawl! I know anytime I eat out that someone has touched my food, plate, etc. I wasn't like this as a child but "developed" this in my early 20's. I had two aunts who were OCD but my mom wasn't, no one else in my family was. I raised my son giving him 3 baths a day through his toddler years! He's 30 years old now and is as OCD as I used to be. His 7 year old daughter is OCD about some things. When I became disabled it became imposible to vacuum 3 or 4 times per day and keep a spotless house. I've had to learn to live with this horrible disorder.
I've been told OCD is hereditary and others say it's a learned behavior. I've taken meds but didn't stop my compulsions. What does everyone think? Hereditary or learned behavior?
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Post by daniela on Aug 7, 2012 23:04:43 GMT -5
Good question Marylou. I think it is hereditary. I also think everyone is so paranoid about germs today, just like you and Bucky stated. I think that being too educated on germs would make it worse for someone with OCD. I think maybe being over educated about germs and disease, makes the extreme OCD come out. Good Luck with curing that. I can't imagine how debilitating it can be. I could be completely wrong about it being hereditary, I probably am actually, but, this is just my uneducated guess.
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Post by wmfan/waltonsportwriter on Aug 7, 2012 23:21:46 GMT -5
I'm sorry you have to suffer through OCD marylou. I've heard of it and whether it's learned or hereditary you suffer through it and thats what is the toughest to you. Take care and good luck and best wishes to you in dealing with your situation, Talk soon waltonsportwriter
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Post by Marilyn on Aug 7, 2012 23:38:32 GMT -5
marylou01, I’m not germaphobic, but I won’t eat at a buffet. I’ve worked in food establishments and you have no idea the things that go on behind closed doors. Some people who work in the kitchens don’t care about being careful and clean. Coughing or sneezing without covering their mouth. Leaving food out for a long time before using. Dropping food on the kitchen floor, picking it up and still using it. Oh yes.. I have seen it all. No buffets for me, ever! I don’t worry about germs though and am a very strong believer that a little dirt and some critters thrown in just strengthens your immune system.
I think OCD is more a learned condition than hereditary. We can inherit a trait to be more on the nervous side, but what we do with that nervousness is our own choice. Some people deal with it by taking drugs, some people deal with it with OCD, some people deal with it with a lot of physical activity and some people deal with it with counseling and feedback therapy. The most important thing to be aware of is not to rely on drugs to keep you so sedated that you smother the condition because it also will affect your quality of life. People with OCD usually have anxiety disorder and it’s a tough thing to live with. Unless someone has had it, they don’t have a clue what it's about.
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Post by marylou01 on Aug 8, 2012 18:50:06 GMT -5
Marilyn, you hit the nail right on the head! I was a workaholic before becoming disabled, I was never a neverous person until then. I killed my self working, keeping a spotless house & taking care of everyone. OCD is horrific, I try to tell my son & point out how rough I made his life with this disorder. I rem constantly bathing him, brushing his teeth, making him wash his hands, keeping his shoes spotless, clothing perfect, etc. He says he didn't know any difference when he was young & can't stop his compulsions, which I know he can't. But it makes me sick seeing my 7 year old grand daughter get upset because her hairbow is crooked! Or her food in her plate touches other food! I did/do that one too! Maybe she'll out grow it? My daughter in-law says they both drive her crazy and she wishes I hadn't done this to him. Me too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2012 20:01:11 GMT -5
I'm surprised Olivia and or Grandma didn't tell the children to wash their hands before sitting down to eat.
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Post by mercantile on Aug 8, 2012 20:14:00 GMT -5
marylou01, I’m not germaphobic, but I won’t eat at a buffet. I’ve worked in food establishments and you have no idea the things that go on behind closed doors. Some people who work in the kitchens don’t care about being careful and clean. Coughing or sneezing without covering their mouth. Leaving food out for a long time before using. Dropping food on the kitchen floor, picking it up and still using it. Oh yes.. I have seen it all. No buffets for me, ever! I don’t worry about germs though and am a very strong believer that a little dirt and some critters thrown in just strengthens your immune system.
I think OCD is more a learned condition than hereditary. We can inherit a trait to be more on the nervous side, but what we do with that nervousness is our own choice. Some people deal with it by taking drugs, some people deal with it with OCD, some people deal with it with a lot of physical activity and some people deal with it with counseling and feedback therapy. The most important thing to be aware of is not to rely on drugs to keep you so sedated that you smother the condition because it also will affect your quality of life. People with OCD usually have anxiety disorder and it’s a tough thing to live with. Unless someone has had it, they don’t have a clue what it's about.
Yep. OCD and anxiety are the best of friends. Both are disorders that have the power to ruin lives; medication is again just a suppressant. With the right help and understanding even the worst of fears are surmountable. mercantile
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Post by wmfan/waltonsportwriter on Aug 8, 2012 20:15:44 GMT -5
I heard John Senior say wash up before dinner in the Job. The children were coming in from outside. I'm sure they were well and clean. waltonsportwriter
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Post by Honeybee on Aug 8, 2012 23:09:31 GMT -5
I heard on tv shows. When they do food scenes. The food gets cold. So, they don't eat them. the director tells them not to eat it. pretend to it.
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Post by Tonyray on Aug 9, 2012 9:00:45 GMT -5
Talking about inside plumbing I lived in Alaska for 15 years I remember seeing people have a big satellite dish in their front yard (back then you needed a 20 foot dish in Alaska) and an outhouse in the back. These dishes cost around $2000.00 back then they would spend that much for a dish but didn't have inside plumbing ;D
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Post by JeriJet on Aug 9, 2012 9:17:35 GMT -5
As late as 2001 my grandparents' outhouse was still sitting out in the back, about 300 feet from the house..... I suppose it came in handy when working the garden, feeding the chickens, etc..... but, YIKES !
FYI, my grandma's second husband died in 2001 at 101..... heavy drinker, heavy smoker, but extremely active almost until his dying day. Hardy stock!
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