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Post by newfynut on Oct 26, 2011 21:01:56 GMT -5
I love the Waltons, and most any show thats set "in the old days" but if there's anything that makes me nuts its that they don't make the shows more realistic to the time they were supposed to be set in. For eample, names...now really how many "Erin's and Jason's " truly existed in the 30's and 40's ? Hairdo's also...did any of your uncles or great uncles have longer shaggy hair like Ben or Pa ? Todays episode on INSP "Silver Wings" shows a Mrs Randolph in a halter top and very short shorts!!! Her hair and clothes were straight out of the 70's !!! Could someone PLEASE tell me why this happens, not just on the Waltons, but MANY other shows (MASH, Dr Quinn, Big Valley etc) Why are some things so close to factual but others so totally off???
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Post by Marilyn on Oct 26, 2011 21:11:02 GMT -5
That halter-top outfit was the style back in that day. The haircuts too. Do a google search for pics from that era and you'll see the similarities.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 7:23:59 GMT -5
A lot of forum members have mentioned the shorts that Mary Ellen wears in the Dust Bowl cousins being out of character for the times.
I thought so too until I saw a photo of the opening of Hwy 17 in the Santa Cruz mountains in the 30's.
The photo had two teen age girls wearing shorter and tighter shorts that ME was wearing.
Rumor has it that the sexual revolution that happened in the 1960's was actual going to happen in the 1930's , (following the roaring 20's) but the depression changed peoples attitudes.
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Post by River on Oct 27, 2011 8:56:10 GMT -5
It may have been a style, but I doubt that people in rural VA in the depression had money to buy the latest style (not to mention that they probably were very conservative). Remember when Marcia arrived with Rev. Buchanan at the Waltons mortgage burning and she had a midriff baring top on and Corabeth fainted bec. Marcia looked trashy. I think more people would have thought like Corabeth of that style.
I don't think feathered hair was the style of the 30-40's. That is a 70's style.
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Post by JeriJet on Oct 27, 2011 10:25:22 GMT -5
I have to agree with Marilyn, river..... mostly from photos of my Mom and her friends during the 1920's and 30's. They were very poor country folk during the depression but it's amazing what ingenuity they had when it came to trendy clothing and hair styles..... a page torn out of a fashion magazine in the candy store or library got passed from friend to friend; old clothes were recycled by clever girls who had taught themselves how to sew; experimental kitchen haircuts were common and even green hair happened from time to time!!
And, there will always be Corabeths (and grandmas) who can't easily accept change brought by the next generation.....
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Post by kimmy77 on Oct 27, 2011 16:01:12 GMT -5
I have a lot of pictures of my Grandma and her sister wearing halter tops and short shorts. They grew up in rural VA in the 30's and 40's. And yes JeriJet they did make most of their clothes. However, my other Grandma who who also grew up in the same time would never have dressed that way. To this day she still wears dresses and always has. I guess it just depends on the person.
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Oct 27, 2011 16:34:10 GMT -5
There was one woman who grew up in the 1940s who said that she and her sisters and girl friends wore shorts ONLY when they went into the back yard to play which was fenced in and no men or boys could see them.
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Post by bmcgill on Oct 27, 2011 17:14:16 GMT -5
I watched the episode Silver Wings and I thought that the cloths that Mrs. Randolph wore were a little revealing for the day but maybe not. I know it was just a story but maybe it was intended this way but no wonder Jim Bob fell in love with her. A woman wearing clothes like that would get the attention of any young man.
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Post by childfree23 on Oct 27, 2011 17:57:47 GMT -5
David,
I'm a little surprised that INSP, which I recently heard aired "The Silver Wings," actually aired it because of all the implications that could be read into the relationship between Mrs. Randolps and Jim-Bob. The storyline is similar to "Summer Of '42," so if you've ever see that movie you'll know to which implications I'm referring (one of which is how Hermie's character lost his "virtue").
As for what Mrs. Randolph wore around her house (and in front of Jim-Bob), I can tell you what the women in my family, who lived during World War II (i.e., both of my grandmothers) told me: In the privacy of one's own home during the summer, especially if that home was in some out-of-the-way place (where Mrs. Randolph lived would be an excellent example), dress code "rules" were commonly suspended. Not only was it more comfortable (don't let anyone tell you the mountains don't get hot during the summer), but it also saved wear-and-tear on the dresses women like Mrs. Randolph's character and both of my grandmothers wore when they went out. Things were in such short supply during World War II that they had to be preserved and money saved however they could be.
Although I kind of wish I could trade places with Mrs. Randolph's character and be seranaded by Jim-Bob ("Come, Josephine, in my flying machine ..."). I think Jim-Bob had a teriffic singing voice. <swoon>
Knowing how I feel about Jim-Bob's character, you should have seen that last remark coming a mile away. :-)
ChildFree23/Debby
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Post by Marilyn on Oct 28, 2011 0:12:55 GMT -5
The feathered back hair-do's seemed out of place, but the men's hair styles fit and also remember that they had their hair cut by their mom's or wives mostly, so they weren't going to look real slick! The midriff baring outfits were the rage, but probably not for country folks. As for the story line of Silver Wings being abit racy, it was actually more of a lesson I thought and a good one at that!
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Post by jasonpendleton on Oct 29, 2011 13:45:35 GMT -5
I agree--Silver Wings was a bit racy, and I thought pretty far out of line for Jim Bob's character. Yes, a young man of Jim Bob's age could certainly have a crush on a young married woman, and find excuses to spend time with her. At one point, though, Jim Bob essentially flat out says that he doesn't care that she's married, and he wants to be with her. Pretty far out of line for a Walton's character.
In the end, though, as Marilyn points out, it was a valuable lesson. A large contrast from shows of today, who would want to have viewers rooting for a relationship like that.
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Post by Marilyn on Oct 29, 2011 16:21:31 GMT -5
Just goes to show how strong testosterone can be at that age. They overrule common sense. ;D
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Post by bmcgill on Oct 29, 2011 17:27:47 GMT -5
That is true Moe. I've heard that put in another phase but I can't post it here on the forum.
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Post by JeriJet on Oct 29, 2011 18:47:36 GMT -5
Getting away from garb, hairdos, and behavior.... another thing drove me nuts -- and that's when I investigated their radio. That model didn't come out until 1937.
"The Walton radio as it is called today was a 1937 Zenith Tombstone, Model 12-S-232. This is the 12 tube model, it also came with 7 and 9 tubes."
PHOOEY!
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Post by Marilyn on Oct 29, 2011 23:07:39 GMT -5
The radio bugs you?
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