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Post by bmcgill on Oct 30, 2011 0:38:21 GMT -5
Now Now. Everybody has their own opinion on things. Really don't matter to me if everything was just perfect or not,on the show. I still liked it very much and I'm sure there were very many mistakes made but how could they have not made some with two hundred and some episodes.
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Post by childfree23 on Oct 30, 2011 5:30:37 GMT -5
That is true Moe. I've heard that put in another phase but I can't post it here on the forum. Do you mean about the possibility of Jim-Bob's "virtue" being stolen by his married lady friend (who may or may not have been widowed at that point), or Jim-Bob getting what was called in Mario Puzo's The Godfather the "thunderbolt"? Knowing that this is a "family" board, I tried to state it as delicately as possible. ChildFree23/Debby |
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Post by bmcgill on Oct 30, 2011 8:34:25 GMT -5
I was really just talking about the radio not being the right year. I've seen other shows where it is suppose to be a certain year and there might be a car in a scene a year or two newer than the year it is suppose to have been. Wouuldn't have come out yet. I thnk the episode The Silver Wings ended about like most Waltons episodes. I joke with my wife that all ends well on The Waltons. Probably why INSP aired it. Nothing really wrong happened. Jim Bob's youth got a hold on him. Don't think they would have aired it if something had of happened. I do know, however that things like Jim Bob's relationship with a woman who had a man gone of to war in those days did happen in real life.
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Post by Marilyn on Oct 30, 2011 12:44:50 GMT -5
Childfree, we were talking about teenage hormones/testosterone. There are little sayings for it. We have four boys, so I know quite abit about it, plus the men here have lived it!
About that radio, no doubt the prop people used the best they could find?
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Post by bmcgill on Oct 30, 2011 13:04:19 GMT -5
The starter button on my Studebaker is on the clutch. Push down on the clutch hard and pull the choke to get it going.
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Post by childfree23 on Oct 30, 2011 13:15:42 GMT -5
Childfree, we were talking about teenage hormones/testosterone. There are little sayings for it. We have four boys, so I know quite abit about it, plus the men here have lived it! About that radio, no doubt the prop people used the best they could find? Hi Marilyn! I figured out that part of the thread was about Jim-Bob's raging hormones at age seventeen. I was just using some "creative" language to describe what a teenage boy himself into if he's not careful (i.e., having his "virtue" stolen, getting the "thunderbolt), on what is otherwise a family discussion board. I used to work with teenagers in a previous life, as well as being a former teenager myself, so I'm well aware of what raging hormones can do to both boys AND girls. But I stand by my statement that more happened in the subtext of The Silver Wings, than was shown on the episode. It's like reading a Victorian novel -- such as Emily Bronte's "Wuthering Heights" -- in which the subplot is not explicitly spelled out. Everything is implied, because such "things" (for lack of a better word) just didn't happen in "proper" Victorian culture. I know it's a stretch, comparing Victorian England to The Waltons, but my point here is about what could be implied in The Silver Wings. The optimist in me would like to think that Jim-Bob was able to give some degre of comfort, in whatever form it took, to Betsy Thompson when her husband dies in The Silver Wings, rather than losing his virtue to Kathy Seale in The Pursuit. Maybe I'm taking this too seriously ... ChildFree23/Debby |
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Oct 30, 2011 16:33:35 GMT -5
You may not have been paying too much attention to what went on in The Pursuit. Kathy Seale was lonesome
and wanted to get away from an unhappy life--remember she was living in Norfolk but her father lived in
Jersey City. She did not answer the question whether or not her parents were divorced---of course that
was not discussed much then, She made up the story that she was pregnant. While I did not care much for
Jimbob's rudeness to Elizabeth in The Silver Wings, probably Jimbob was lonely too. Both wanted a friend
sadly Jimbob did not know that 'nice girls(and women) do not accept expensive gifts,even though the thought was kind.
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Post by jasonpendleton on Oct 31, 2011 17:47:53 GMT -5
I think we should be careful not to presume that Jim Bob and Kathy did indeed consummate their relationship. Jim Bob knew he stayed the night there but (presumably due to alcohol) could not remember more than talking late into the night, telling her he loved her, etc. To my knowledge, the only storyline which truly implied that any of the Walton offspring had premarital sex was in Season 9 when John-Boy entered Simone's shop at the end of a date. They kiss and John-Boy closes the door with the clear implication of what happens next.
I've always appreciated the Waltons for being a solid example that premarital sex does not need to be the norm.
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Post by JeriJet on Nov 1, 2011 12:34:38 GMT -5
It never even occurred to me that anything untoward had happened between Betsy and Jim-Bob.... I thought it was rather a sweet story about coming of age -- it gave Jim-Bob a chance to "grow up" on the show, to pull himself out of the little boy stage.
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Post by JeriJet on Nov 1, 2011 12:37:12 GMT -5
Yup, I felt the producers didn't look hard enough for an appropriate radio. It wouldn't have mattered much if the radio hadn't played quite a meaningful role in the show..... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2011 5:57:20 GMT -5
'I think we should be careful not to presume that Jim Bob and Kathy did indeed consummate their relationship."
__i never thought that they did either
John-Boy entered Simone's shop at the end of a date. They kiss and John-Boy closes the door with the clear implication of what happens next.
-I did not get that feeling at all
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Post by childfree23 on Nov 2, 2011 9:58:13 GMT -5
I want to apologize to everyone for my "speculations" on this thread. I did not mean to imply what I did. I was just trying to point out that the possibility was there, however remote.
Will you forgive me?
ChildFree23/Debby
Patsy Brimmer Impersonator #1
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Post by JeriJet on Nov 2, 2011 10:14:05 GMT -5
I want to apologize to everyone for my "speculations" on this thread. I did not mean to imply what I did. I was just trying to point out that the possibility was there, however remote. Will you forgive me? ChildFree23/Debby Patsy Brimmer Impersonator #1 Good grief, Debby -- no need to apologize! If it weren't for some good back and forth "debating" (regardless of the intent), this would be a very boring forum!! |
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Post by bmcgill on Nov 2, 2011 11:04:47 GMT -5
No problem with me either on whether they did or didn't, you know. After all it was just a written episode and it was done in a very clean way compared to what is on TV today.
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Post by childfree23 on Nov 2, 2011 13:12:34 GMT -5
I want to apologize to everyone for my "speculations" on this thread. I did not mean to imply what I did. I was just trying to point out that the possibility was there, however remote. Will you forgive me? ChildFree23/Debby Patsy Brimmer Impersonator #1 Good grief, Debby -- no need to apologize! If it weren't for some good back and forth "debating" (regardless of the intent), this would be a very boring forum!! If you say so. I come to the show and my analysis of the episodes as a late-in-life English major who also wants to be a writer. Because of my upgringing and writer's imagination I see the episodes and characters, and read into them, differently. But I stand by my allusion about "The Silver Wings." If you watch the movie "Summer Of '42," and then re-watch "The Silver Wings," you may just see the connection I draw between Hermie's relationship with the war widow, and Jim-Bob's relationship with Betsy Thompson. While Ben appeared to be the most outgoing of the Walton Boys, Jim-Bob was the most passionate and sensitive. In my opinion, it's the passion and sensitivity that gets adolescent boys and young men into the most "trouble," as alluded to in my previous posts. You have to admit, with my "different" ideas, it sure makes this forum interesting! ChildFree23/Debby Patsy Brimmer Impersonator #1 |
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