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Post by RebeccaLee on Sept 1, 2017 9:52:11 GMT -5
So I was looking at 1930 recipes and if the Waltons would have had anything similar...farm living vs city. Some I see happening...spagetti at supper, chicken, fish....some like codfish on toast at breakfast...yuck! Don't think so!
Allen's Cooking, Menus, Service, [Garden City:New York] 1935
Breakfast (fall menus) (p. 20-21)
Stewed prunes, corn flakes and milk, boiled eggs, toast and butter, coffee, milk. Oatmeal cooked with dates, top milk, bacon, muffins and butter, coffee, milk. Pears, cracked wheat, top milk, creamed codfish on toast, coffee, milk.
Lunch (fall menus) (p. 20-21) Poached eggs with rice and cheese, Graham bread and butter, grape jelly, cocoa. Boston baked beans, steamed brown bread and butter, piccalilli, canned peaches, tea. Chicken or veal soup, dumplings, mince pie, tea.
Lunch/School lunch box menus (p. 45-6) Peanut butter and entire-wheat bread sandwiches, scrambled-egg sandwiches, raising ginberbread, an apple, milk (hot-cold bottle). Creamed chicken, ham or veal and entire-wheat bread sandwiches, jelly and white bread sandwiches, a hard-cooked egg, sponge cake, lemonade.
Lunch/Lunch box meals for the worker (p. 48) Sliced ham and currant jelly sandwiches, made with entire-wheat bread, egg salad sandwiches made with white bread, apple pie, cheese, hot coffee, an orange. Cold baked beans, Boston brown bread and butter sandwiches, spiced beef sandwiches with white bread, a raw tomato with salt and pepper, Portsmouth orange cake, an apple, hot tea.
Dinner (fall menus) (p. 20-21) Vegetable bouillon, meat loaf, stewed tomatoes, baked potatoes, bread and butter, lettuce, celery and grape salad, gingerbread with whipped cream, black coffee. Chicken or Veal Fricassee, boiled rice, buttered beets, sweet pickles, bread and butter, hermits, sliced oranges, black coffee. Broiled halibut of mackerel, parsley sauce, spinach, spaghetti Itilain, bread and bitter, spice cake (left-over) served with custard sauce, black coffee
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Post by aresalz on Sept 2, 2017 10:40:46 GMT -5
One thing that caught my attention is the lack of certain items in this list of menus. It makes me wonder if this list is from a local certain area of our great nation. The lack of items such as cornbread, rice, greens and grits is a dead giveaway it has no southern influence in it.
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Post by JeriJet on Sept 2, 2017 11:19:19 GMT -5
One thing that caught my attention is the lack of certain items in this list of menus. It makes me wonder if this list is from a local certain area of our great nation. The lack of items such as cornbread, rice, greens and grits is a dead giveaway it has no southern influence in it. I was thinking the same thing.... and noted that most items were part of my childhood -- so, Northeast??
Also included are many items that "poorer" families widely used -- oh man, how I remember (and despised!) anything fricasseed, well-known for the use of lesser cuts of meat. The only time we had cornbread was with chili.
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Post by diane9 on Sept 2, 2017 14:11:50 GMT -5
Also remember that this was during the Depression years so such items as meat might not have been available for purchase...
I too, have a cookbook that my mom had (and I'm 59 yrs old) that was written back in the early 50's...If you think that 30's cookbook was awful, you should see what women who were pregnant were advised to consume...it was absolute "blech-cola" to me...
Seems like anything "on toast" was still a "thing" too...Codfish, any fish...my husband has been known to get up in the morning and fix himself some "fish and grits" for breakfast...I find it positively revolting...I'd rather have some nice bacon, but I have to settle for that "turkey" bacon nowadays...
And such foodstuffs that were LOADED with "shag-nasty" fat such as lard, LOTS of PURE butter, whole milk, and the like were staples - I know this because of the lard my mother kept near the stove until the day she died (at 90)...(few would admit that such items was what made food taste REALLY GOOD back in the day though)..
We won't even talk about sugar (the HUGE elephant sittin' over there in the corner - I see you Huey!)..
I remember seeing stewed prunes a LOT in my mother's cookbook too....only thing I thought prunes were good for, was if you were constipated...and even then, my mom still reached for the Fletcher's Castoria......Because that would surely do the trick..
Kinda makes you understand why there's now such a huge population with heart disease (me) HTN and diabetes now....
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Post by JeriJet on Sept 2, 2017 18:55:10 GMT -5
I have my mom's cookbook "The American Woman's Cookbook", first published in 1927!!! (hers is from 1939)... lots of fun to peruse -- spot several dishes from my childhood.
Re things on toast -- I remember "creamed chipped beef on toast" as a cheapy "meal" -- learned many years later that Dad "brought the recipe home" from the Navy in WWII -- can you believe he missed it ??!!
I also remember "croquettes" being made from any leftover roasts.... needed plenty of ketchup for those!!
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Post by Kathy Lee on Sept 2, 2017 21:39:53 GMT -5
And just think....people were much thinner back then! Wonder what we are doing wrong.
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Post by carol on Sept 3, 2017 0:58:03 GMT -5
And just think....people were much thinner back then! Wonder what we are doing wrong. Besides eating healthier diets than we do now and not having McDonalds, Taco Bell sodas and the abundance of junk food we have now people worked it off back then.Today a good many of us sit behind a desk all day but back in the day women washed clothes by hand over a washboard unlike today where we throw it in the machine and let it take over. Women got down and scrubbed floors rather than just run a mop over it like many of us do now. Women were on the move all day doing something around the house. Men worked in the fields most of the day and chopped wood to keep the fireplace and stove running or like John Walton did a physical job. Also it was nothing for people to walk to wherever they had to go especially during the depression and the war when gas was a luxury. Kids walked a mile or more to school every morning and back home again in the afternoon. We're lazy now. We'll take the car two blocks to the store.
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Post by flyaway on Sept 3, 2017 8:32:45 GMT -5
I have my mom's cookbook "The American Woman's Cookbook", first published in 1927!!! (hers is from 1939)... lots of fun to peruse -- spot several dishes from my childhood.
Re things on toast -- I remember "creamed chipped beef on toast" as a cheapy "meal" -- learned many years later that Dad "brought the recipe home" from the Navy in WWII -- can you believe he missed it ??!!
I also remember "croquettes" being made from any leftover roasts.... needed plenty of ketchup for those!!
My Mom had the same cookbook and now I have it. It has recipes like Roasted squirrel, roasted pigeon and opossum pie.....YUM! We also ate our share of creamed chip beef on toast!
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Post by JeriJet on Sept 3, 2017 10:53:31 GMT -5
flyaway, (wouldn't let me "quote' for some reason)....
I actually LIKED creamed chipped beef on toast, very much -- Did You?
Should look up the recipe, but where does one buy "chipped beef" these days ??!!
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Post by carol on Sept 3, 2017 14:41:26 GMT -5
flyaway, (wouldn't let me "quote' for some reason)....
I actually LIKED creamed chipped beef on toast, very much -- Did You?
Should look up the recipe, but where does one buy "chipped beef" these days ??!! You can buy chipped beef the grocery store.It's usually where you find pre packaged cold cuts/lunch meats. I always use Esskay brand chipped beef. Creamed Chipped Beef is easy to make. Directions Melt butter in a medium saucepan. Blend in flour, salt and pepper. Stir in milk. cook over medium heat until mixture boils and thickens, stirring constantly. Reduce the heat. Tear beef into shreds and add to cream sauce. Heat through. Serve over toast. You can also get creamed chipped beef already made in the frozen food section.
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Post by JeriJet on Sept 3, 2017 22:17:46 GMT -5
flyaway, (wouldn't let me "quote' for some reason)....
I actually LIKED creamed chipped beef on toast, very much -- Did You?
Should look up the recipe, but where does one buy "chipped beef" these days ??!! You can buy chipped beef the grocery store.It's usually where you find pre packaged cold cuts/lunch meats. I always use Esskay brand chipped beef. Creamed Chipped Beef is easy to make. Directions Melt butter in a medium saucepan. Blend in flour, salt and pepper. Stir in milk. cook over medium heat until mixture boils and thickens, stirring constantly. Reduce the heat. Tear beef into shreds and add to cream sauce. Heat through. Serve over toast. You can also get creamed chipped beef already made in the frozen food section.
Oh, Wow -- Thanks, Carol !
Never occurred to me that it would still be available today -- and, thanks for telling me how to "create" it !!
Jeri
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Post by flyaway on Sept 4, 2017 5:46:12 GMT -5
flyaway, (wouldn't let me "quote' for some reason)....
I actually LIKED creamed chipped beef on toast, very much -- Did You?
Should look up the recipe, but where does one buy "chipped beef" these days ??!! Jeri, yes I did to. My sister use to call it Sh*^* on a shingle. I did a google search of dried beef and you can get it everywhere, however doesn't look very healthy for you!
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Post by RebeccaLee on Sept 4, 2017 8:18:33 GMT -5
Spam...my mother baked (heated) it in a brown sugar glaze...mashed potatoes and canned peas...yuck...I was skinny then too...
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Post by JeriJet on Sept 4, 2017 10:21:57 GMT -5
flyaway, (wouldn't let me "quote' for some reason)....
I actually LIKED creamed chipped beef on toast, very much -- Did You?
Should look up the recipe, but where does one buy "chipped beef" these days ??!! Jeri, yes I did to. My sister use to call it Sh*^* on a shingle. I did a google search of dried beef and you can get it everywhere, however doesn't look very healthy for you!
I figure that if I have it just once before I die, for old time's sake, it can't hurt much !!
I'll add it to my bucket list !!
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Post by JeriJet on Sept 4, 2017 10:26:45 GMT -5
Spam...my mother baked (heated) it in a brown sugar glaze...mashed potatoes and canned peas...yuck...I was skinny then too...
Spam is one of those things I had never had.... so, a couple of years ago I finally bought some (was a little surprised to see that it was still on my grocery shelves) -- one or two bites was all I could handle !!
Major YUCK.
But easy to understand that it may have been a necessity for some people in bad times.
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