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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 20:57:23 GMT -5
The mini series. I was watching it the other day and I knew two of the actors looked familiar. I looked them up and they are Ashley Long worth Jr. who plays George Hazards older brother, Stanley and JB's wife from the last three specials who plays Cousin Charles's love interest www.imdb.com/title/tt0088583/
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Post by lorijean on Jan 11, 2011 21:55:34 GMT -5
Wow ... you have a good eye! I knew about Stanley playing Ashley Longworth Jr, but I did not pick up on the actress that played Augusta Barclay being Janet. Both The Waltons and North and South are very dear to my heart!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 22:00:42 GMT -5
I am not good at actor's names. In fact, the only way I can recognize (categorize) someone is by their mouth. It took a long time and many watchings of North and South ( Love you Patrick, rip) to notice that there was something familiar about them. Our mouths do not really change that much as the years go by or if someone is wearing a costume.
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Post by lorijean on Jan 11, 2011 22:30:27 GMT -5
I absolutely love your picture tankeryanker!! I love that movie and have been wanting to start watching it. This year marks the 150th anniversary of the civil war. Have you seen The Blue and The Gray? Jim Bob is in that one and he always makes me cry.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 22:44:35 GMT -5
Yes, I have seen the Blue and the Grey. I am a Civil War freak. I am watching the last chapter of North and South (Lee just surrendered) and my heart just goes out to the Rebs. All of that fighting for nothing. I know that we are to be one nation under God, but still the South had some good points,and they were much better horsemen and fighters.
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Post by Marilyn on Jan 11, 2011 23:41:20 GMT -5
That was such a tragic war....
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Jan 12, 2011 8:01:43 GMT -5
We must remember that Robert E Lee did not believe in slavery and thought it was wrong for states to secede. The only reason he fought in the Confederate Army was that he did not want to fight relatives, friends, and neighbors. Chief Justice Taney who issued the Dread Scott Decision which said that slaves were not declared persons by the Constitution FREED his slaves years prior to the decision.
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Post by ncwaltonsfan on Jan 12, 2011 10:37:51 GMT -5
As a descendant of Confederate soldiers,I think the South was right. It was not about preserving slavery. It was about keeping a limited,constitutional form of government as the founders gave us. The South's real concern was too much centralized government in Washington, D.C., not preservation of slavery. Robert E. Lee freed his slaves and fought for the South after his home state of Virginia seceded because he did not want to fight against Virginia. It was out of loyalty to his home state.
After the war,the federal government seized Robert E. Lee's property and made it what it is known as today, Arlington National Cemetery.
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Post by ncwaltonsfan on Jan 12, 2011 10:52:38 GMT -5
I have seen "The Blue and The Gray". I have not watched "North and South" completely,though I have seen parts of it. Another Civil War epic that sounds fascinating is "Gods And Generals". I want to watch it sometime.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 11:17:25 GMT -5
Gods and Generals is good along with its sequel, Gettysburg. I wish they had made the last installment of the trilogy, Last Full Measure. I normally start my civil war movie fest with Gods and Generals.
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Post by davidm on Jan 12, 2011 14:04:07 GMT -5
So when was Jonathan Frakes beamed up out of North and South and sent into outer space as part of the Federation?
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Post by Marilyn on Jan 12, 2011 15:13:32 GMT -5
It was just within the past year that I found out about the prison camps. I had no idea we had such things in this country back then. We weren't taught this in history class, but should have been.
Andersonville, or Camp Sumter as it was officially known, was one of the largest of many established prison camps during the American Civil War. It was built early in 1864 after Confederate officials decided to move the large number of Federal prisoners kept in and around Richmond, Virginia, to a place of greater security and a more abundant food supply. During the 14 months the prison existed, more than 45,000 Union Solders were confined here. Of these, almost 13,000 died from disease, poor sanitation, malnutrition, overcrowding, or exposure to the elements.
The first prisoners were brought to Andersonville in February, 1864. During the next few months approximately 400 more arrived each day until, by the end of June, some 26,000 men were confined in a prison area originally intended to hold 13,000. The largest number held at any one time was more than 32,000- about the population of present-day Sumter County- in August, 1864. Handicapped by deteriorating economic conditions, an inadequate transportation system, and the need to concentrate all available resources on the army, the Confederate government was unable to provide adequate housing, food, clothing, and medical care to their Federal captives. These conditions, along with a breakdown of the prisoner exchange system, resulted in much suffering and a high mortality rate. On July 9, 1864, Sgt. David Kennedy of the 9th Ohio Cavalry wrote in his diary: ' Wuld that I was an artist & had the material to paint this camp & all its horors or the tounge of some eloquent Statesman and had the privleage of expresing my mind to our hon. rulers at Washington, I should gloery to describe this hell on earth where it takes 7 of its ocupiants to make a shadow.'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 16:02:26 GMT -5
"We weren't taught this in history class, but should have been."
-Remember that if you went to public school, everything you have learned is what the government wanted you to learn. Their version, no more, no less. Spooky.
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Jan 12, 2011 18:31:33 GMT -5
my grand aunt told me a story about a soldier who came home to Illinois from the Civil War and had not eaten a good meal in a very long time. He was so glad to see that there was a pie and he was so hungry that he ate it all . He fell down dead a few minutes later.
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Post by Marilyn on Jan 12, 2011 19:42:52 GMT -5
Civil War Freak, I wonder though...how would the gov't have control over what a small farm town out in the sticks teaches the students? I'm thinking the schools back then didn't want to teach us about the violence that went on, because we hardly heard a single word about the holocaust either.
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