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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2023 18:20:36 GMT -5
So Bobby Ewing is killed in season 9 but comes back to life, but the excuse is that it was all a dream? What the heck? This ranks up there with Kurt's return. I noticed that Lorimar produced both Walton's and Dallas. Is stupid storylines common with this company?
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Post by goodnight on Jan 23, 2023 20:22:37 GMT -5
If I recall correctly Bobby's death was mention on the Dallas sister show Knot's Landing. Because Gary and his wife had welcome twin babies into their family and they named them Betsy and Bobby (in memory of Gary's brother). Who next season wasn't a memory anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2023 21:30:37 GMT -5
If I recall correctly Bobby's death was mention on the Dallas sister show Knot's Landing. Because Gary and his wife had welcome twin babies into their family and they named them Betsy and Bobby (in memory of Gary's brother). Who next season wasn't a memory anymore. Now I am to the part where Bobby and Pam are going to get married again, but Ray just told Bobby that Jenna is carrying his baby. Will Pam walk down the isle knowing that Bobby will have to co-parent with Jenna? Is Bobby going to leave Pam and marry Jenna knowing he would have to co-parent with Pam? Honestly, I think its an insult to us the audience when they write crap like this. But then again, I am not going to go to bed until I know who Bobby married nearly 40 years ago.
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Post by Easton on Jan 24, 2023 9:20:39 GMT -5
I never watched Dallas, but I remember reading and hearing about Bobby's death and then his controversial return. I do, however, remember Patrick Duffy in 'Man from Atlantis.
Of course, the 'dead & return' has been used in other TV shows, some with disastrous results as in 'Rosanne' and some with hilarious results such as the 'variation' return in the series finale of 'Newhart'.
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Post by JessicaGirlSpy on Jan 24, 2023 15:45:39 GMT -5
TV characters back from the dead makes me think of this scene
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 17:05:59 GMT -5
How do actors deliver stupid corny lines? I mean, yes they get paid, but the whole world will hear it. Maybe they cringe and get embarrassed for themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 18:34:49 GMT -5
DALLAS Cast Remember Bobby Ewing In The Shower
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Post by nedandres on Jan 24, 2023 20:47:09 GMT -5
Writer Claire Whitaker told me that the producers brought Curt back to shake things up and generate ratings. It worked, too. Those episodes were some of the highest-rated of season 9. A real “jump the shark” moment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 15:54:21 GMT -5
I never watched Dallas or Knots Landing, but those shows after reading up on them kind of sound very similar to the daytime soap opera stuff that is on where the entire town is extremely wealthy and everyone is sleeping with everyone else and at least a few people have come back from the dead. It is kinda like a show like Riverdale that is really "Hokey" but that show is more for teens and young adults.
The Waltons was not a show like that at all though, so when they brought Curt back from the dead it was really a shocker. Before that the Waltons show never did anything goofy like that in the show. At least I don't remember anything else like that happening.
I still don't think the whole Curt thing coming back from the dead needed to happen and really how much did the rating help. The show was cancelled after that season anyway.
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Post by Easton on Feb 2, 2023 17:02:54 GMT -5
^ That's exactly what they were: Primetime Soap Operas.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 17:06:15 GMT -5
^ That's exactly what they were: Primetime Soap Operas. I am glad I never watched them.
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Post by Kyle on Feb 2, 2023 23:15:19 GMT -5
The backstory: in 1985, Patrick Duffy decided to leave Dallas. He was tired of playing the good guy, and wanted to star in his own series, rather than be a member of an ensemble. He requested that his character be killed off. The original show bible had called for Bobby to be killed off after the first season, leaving Pam to battle the family. The producers were intrigued by the idea of fulfilling the original concept.
In addition, the head producer (showrunner) of Dallas left at the same time. A new showrunner and set of writers came in. Dallas started to go off in all kinds of weird directions, like mining for emeralds in South America. Larry Hagman demanded that Lorimar rehire the original showrunner, and they both wanted Duffy back. Of course, Bobby was dead and buried. But turning the previous season into a dream had two benefits: getting Bobby out of his grave, and wiping out the year of stories that the returning showrunner hated.
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Post by jaydub87 on Feb 4, 2023 22:12:51 GMT -5
My mom and I were just talking about the whole Curt thing the other day. To me, it totally ruined a really good character, and there was no payoff for it. It didn’t elevate Mary Ellen’s character. The woman he was “with” in Florida didn’t become a character. They just destroyed a very likable character so they could have a shocking episode? It just annoys me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:52:48 GMT -5
My mom and I were just talking about the whole Curt thing the other day. To me, it totally ruined a really good character, and there was no payoff for it. It didn’t elevate Mary Ellen’s character. The woman he was “with” in Florida didn’t become a character. They just destroyed a very likable character so they could have a shocking episode? It just annoys me. The original Curt was someone who would freely speak his mind, but he was also someone who cared about people and the well being of others and especially Mary Ellen and John Curtis. The Curt we get to see that is brought back from the dead is nothing like that and from what we are told he is angry/upset because he can no longer satisfy and provide more of a family for Mary Ellen. That is just ridiculous to completely turn against someone you care about and especially abandon your child. It does leave a real terrible picture on the character.
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Post by jaydub87 on Feb 5, 2023 8:49:13 GMT -5
My mom and I were just talking about the whole Curt thing the other day. To me, it totally ruined a really good character, and there was no payoff for it. It didn’t elevate Mary Ellen’s character. The woman he was “with” in Florida didn’t become a character. They just destroyed a very likable character so they could have a shocking episode? It just annoys me. The original Curt was someone who would freely speak his mind, but he was also someone who cared about people and the well being of others and especially Mary Ellen and John Curtis. The Curt we get to see that is brought back from the dead is nothing like that and from what we are told he is angry/upset because he can no longer satisfy and provide more of a family for Mary Ellen. That is just ridiculous to completely turn against someone you care about and especially abandon your child. It does leave a real terrible picture on the character. Exactly. Curt 1.0 was a brave, sometimes abrasive, proud, patriotic man who loved his wife and child. The resurrected Curt was the exact opposite. I get that being at Pearl Harbor would totally change a person, but I don’t think Curt, even if he was embarrassed that he could no longer satisfy Mary Ellen, would have walked away from John Curtis.
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