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Post by bullgator on Mar 2, 2010 22:34:55 GMT -5
We all live with ambiguity, and that is one of the things which makes life interesting. One of the things I do when I watch an episode is try to figure out the date it supposedly occurred. Occasionally the date is given in the opening monologue, but most often it isn't. Some are easy to pinpoint (e.g., the Hindenburg calamity and the bombing of Pearl Harbor), but others aren't. Exasperating the timing problem is the episodes aren't sequential and time compression occurs - particularly true in the last years of the program. One only has to look at the aging of John Curtis to understand the timing problem. John Curtis was born in either 1939 or 1940 but is still a toddler near the end of WWII when he should have been five or six years old. But so what? It doesn't denigrate the show one iota. And besides, I haven't aged a bit from when I first saw the show back in September, 1972.
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Post by kjohn on Mar 3, 2010 7:57:41 GMT -5
bullgator, your last line killed me! me too! then again........
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Post by Tracey on Mar 3, 2010 9:13:57 GMT -5
We all live with ambiguity, and that is one of the things which makes life interesting. One of the things I do when I watch an episode is try to figure out the date it supposedly occurred. Occasionally the date is given in the opening monologue, but most often it isn't. Some are easy to pinpoint (e.g., the Hindenburg calamity and the bombing of Pearl Harbor), but others aren't. Exasperating the timing problem is the episodes aren't sequential and time compression occurs - particularly true in the last years of the program. One only has to look at the aging of John Curtis to understand the timing problem. John Curtis was born in either 1939 or 1940 but is still a toddler near the end of WWII when he should have been five or six years old. But so what? It doesn't denigrate the show one iota. And besides, I haven't aged a bit from when I first saw the show back in September, 1972. Amen bullgator.. I totally agree with kjohn..
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Post by rivki on Mar 4, 2010 8:24:25 GMT -5
We all live with ambiguity, and that is one of the things which makes life interesting. One of the things I do when I watch an episode is try to figure out the date it supposedly occurred. Occasionally the date is given in the opening monologue, but most often it isn't. Some are easy to pinpoint (e.g., the Hindenburg calamity and the bombing of Pearl Harbor), but others aren't. Exasperating the timing problem is the episodes aren't sequential and time compression occurs - particularly true in the last years of the program. One only has to look at the aging of John Curtis to understand the timing problem. John Curtis was born in either 1939 or 1940 but is still a toddler near the end of WWII when he should have been five or six years old. But so what? It doesn't denigrate the show one iota. And besides, I haven't aged a bit from when I first saw the show back in September, 1972. Mybe it was something about the mountain air that kept the Waltons looking young for longer. It had to be better then the air in London. Your last line was wonderful Bullgator.
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Post by Marilyn on Mar 8, 2010 22:58:57 GMT -5
Does anybody know why they stopped the John Curtis character? He was such a huge part of the series. It's only natural that a Walton's fan is going to stop and say hey....where is John Curtis?
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Mar 10, 2010 17:31:55 GMT -5
In the Wilkopedia plan for a Tenth Season which never came about there was an episode called The Fever. In this episode John Curtis supposedly became very ill. Even though the episode was never shown, they may have decided to write him out of the cast. His final appearance at the end of A Day for Thanks on Walton's Mountain(Thanksgiving Day 1982)showed that he never really knew Grandpa Walton even though he was born about 1939 amd Grandpa died in 1941---In Day of Infamy Jason says' I wonder how Grandpa would react to something like this---and Ben says' He would never back away from a fight/. The only way to figure it out would be that John Curtis was simply written out of the scripts for further reunions-----Some have said that their budget was limited----
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Post by kaleigh on Aug 27, 2010 20:36:13 GMT -5
What would the ages in season 1 because in the Dust Bowl Cousins Job asked Jason how old Mary Ellen was and he said 13 in The Carnival John Boy says he 17 They said that Jason is 15 years old in Season 1 The Legend and Dust Bowl Cousins. In season 9 "The Pledge" Jason is 24 years old. MaryEllen 14 years old in "The Awakening" season 2 16 years old in "The Job" season 3 Timeline is so screwed up and make all of us confusion. One season in the show did not necessarily represent one year in their lives. For example, the last episode in season 8 is in the spring of 1944 (Jim-Bob's graduation) and then the next episode which is the first one in season 9 begins exactly one year later, spring 1945. I noticed this recently when I was watching them one after another and heard Earl Hammner's narration.
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Post by kazk on Aug 28, 2010 2:17:12 GMT -5
I wasn't sure how you want it in real life age or character's age. According to Homecoming season. John Boy- 15 years old Jason- 14 years old Mary Ellen 13 years old Erin- 11 years old Ben- 10 years old Jim Bob - 7 years old Elizabeth-4 years old Thank you so much; I've wondered for a while who was older out of Ben and Erin and I found out it was Erin on another Walton website recently. Hi Rivki, and welcome to the Waltons Forum. It may have been on my Waltons site that it was mentioned the ages of Erin and Ben. I run the Waltons Digest and at one time we brought this up and finally asked Earl Hamner for clarification. He did mention that at the start one was older than the other, but that it did change somewhere along the line. That's TV for you. I'll see if I can find where it was mentioned. Cheers, Karen Kearney (from Australia) the-waltons-home-page.com/
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Post by Tracey on Aug 28, 2010 11:14:10 GMT -5
In real life of Earl Hamner Jr's brother and sister are in order of birth:
Earl Hamner Jr (John Boy) Clifton Hamner (Jason) Marion Hamner (Mary Ellen) Audrey Hamner (Erin) Bill and Paul Hamner twins (Ben played both) James Hamner (Jim Bob) Nancy Hamner (Elizabeth)
When the show first started, Ben was the middle child, but later on Erin became the middle child. That's why they had to switch in order of the real birth in Hamner's children.
Hopefully you'll understand.
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Aug 28, 2010 20:02:50 GMT -5
Kaleigh, the last episode of the eighth season began in May of 1944 but ended about June 8 or 9 a few days after D Day. The Outrage episoew ended on Aprill 14,1945, the day the Presidential train carrying FDRS body came through Charlottesville. But it began probably the last of February or the very first of March. so there was about a 9 month gap between episodes.
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Post by kaleigh on Sept 1, 2010 15:25:48 GMT -5
Kaleigh, the last episode of the eighth season began in May of 1944 but ended about June 8 or 9 a few days after D Day. The Outrage episoew ended on Aprill 14,1945, the day the Presidential train carrying FDRS body came through Charlottesville. But it began probably the last of February or the very first of March. so there was about a 9 month gap between episodes. Thanks, dfnmeows44, that's interesting! I forgot about those details.
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