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Post by JeriJet on Sept 18, 2018 16:48:55 GMT -5
Just to muddy up the waters here a little bit --- because I'm not totally sure about John Boy's college accomplishment either. A thought ----- Remembering the episode concerning John Boy trying for the television teaching job, how could he even apply for a professorship at Boatwright without a degree? Wish I could remember how this was "resolved" when we last discussed this -- I know someone had a feasible answer, could have even been me !!
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Post by sambda on Sept 20, 2018 15:12:27 GMT -5
In real life Earl Hamner had to leave college in his sophomore year when he was drafted into the Army during WWII. He went back to college after the war and graduated. Since John Boy is Earl's TV counterpart we have to presume it was the same for him. But when he leaves (in "The Achievement") it isn't to go into the army - that comes later. The Blue Ridge Chronicle, as far as I remember, isn't mentioned again as an active newspaper. Ben is seen maintaining the press at one later point, but that's it, AFAIR.
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Post by carol on Sept 20, 2018 19:15:35 GMT -5
In real life Earl Hamner had to leave college in his sophomore year when he was drafted into the Army during WWII. He went back to college after the war and graduated. Since John Boy is Earl's TV counterpart we have to presume it was the same for him. But when he leaves (in "The Achievement") it isn't to go into the army - that comes later. The Blue Ridge Chronicle, as far as I remember, isn't mentioned again as an active newspaper. Ben is seen maintaining the press at one later point, but that's it, AFAIR. Then when Ben moves into the shed with Cindy the press is no longer in the shed.
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Post by Johnny on Sept 21, 2018 1:08:14 GMT -5
But when he leaves (in "The Achievement") it isn't to go into the army - that comes later. The Blue Ridge Chronicle, as far as I remember, isn't mentioned again as an active newspaper. Ben is seen maintaining the press at one later point, but that's it, AFAIR. Then when Ben moves into the shed with Cindy the press is no longer in the shed. Clarence Johnson with John-boy, did make reference to the Chronicle in The Return, and John-boy looks at and old publication on the bench & rolls the press wheel reminiscing, before bedding down in the shed during his visit. He also demonstrates the old press to Daisy in The Revelation, but no mention is made about what he plans to do with the press.
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Post by nedandres on Sept 21, 2018 15:15:22 GMT -5
Earl Hamner, Jr., did eventually graduate from college, I think, from the University of Cincinnati.
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Post by nedandres on Sept 21, 2018 15:21:10 GMT -5
Another aspect of all this is that Richard Thomas had a prolific acting career before "The Waltons" even started, the only "Walton" other than Ralph, Michael, Ellen and Will to do so. Of the "children" the only actors still in show biz are Judy Norton and Mary McDonough. Both have been moderately successful. But it is hard to survive in the entertainment industry without a side job. Only a small percentage can do it.
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Post by patriciaanne on Sept 21, 2018 17:40:48 GMT -5
Agreed with most of that. I just wish they had mentioned him leaving college in “The Achievement” and explain why he felt it was the right thing for him to do. Odd that his parents didn’t bring it up. I’ve heard Richard say in recent years that since he wound up typecast anyway, he wished he had stayed with the show for its entire run. I’d argue that Richard has had more success than the other Walton children because he is the best actor among them (it didn’t hurt that he looks the most “Hollywood” of the bunch). Even if he didn't stay full time, it would have been nice for him to pop in once or twice a year, like he did with The Return. Oh well.
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Post by patriciaanne on Sept 21, 2018 21:12:26 GMT -5
Another aspect of all this is that Richard Thomas had a prolific acting career before "The Waltons" even started, the only "Walton" other than Ralph, Michael, Ellen and Will to do so. Of the "children" the only actors still in show biz are Judy Norton and Mary McDonough. Both have been moderately successful. But it is hard to survive in the entertainment industry without a side job. Only a small percentage can do it. And Kami has stated many times that she had no interest in continuing to act. I think Jon was mostly interested in his music. Not sure if Eric had any acting aspirations after The Waltons, but he did create a successful company.
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Post by nedandres on Sept 21, 2018 22:21:55 GMT -5
Well, we are very fortunate that he agreed to be part of the 1990s reunion movies! Many TV reunion movies have actors who won’t do it. Think Betty Buckley and “Eight is Enough” or Eve Plumb and “The Brady Bunch Hour,” which ended up being a dud! It’s wonderful that the whole living cast appeared in those 3 movies!
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Post by Kyle on Sept 22, 2018 6:11:03 GMT -5
I think it goes to show how much the cast was devoted to the show, and to each other. I liked the 1993 movie not because of the script, which had problems, but because everyone from the main cast was there and they had a good number of the recurring cast members (Yancy, Aimee, Verdie, Drew, etc). Some of these TV movie reunions don’t bother with recurring cast members, to their detriment.
I heard that in the case of the “Eight is Enough” movies, many of the cast and crew were just as happy not to have Betty Buckley there (though she and Dick Van Patten had a strong relationship; she wrote a lovely tribute to him when he passed away).
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Post by patriciaanne on Sept 22, 2018 14:04:02 GMT -5
Well, we are very fortunate that he agreed to be part of the 1990s reunion movies! Many TV reunion movies have actors who won’t do it. Think Betty Buckley and “Eight is Enough” or Eve Plumb and “The Brady Bunch Hour,” which ended up being a dud! It’s wonderful that the whole living cast appeared in those 3 movies! So true!!
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Post by nedandres on Sept 22, 2018 21:18:30 GMT -5
Well, I didn’t hear anything negative about Betty. Eve Plumb and Maureen McCormick’s feud has put a hold on any other further Brady reunions,
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Post by carol on Sept 23, 2018 0:16:34 GMT -5
Well, I didn’t hear anything negative about Betty. Eve Plumb and Maureen McCormick’s feud has put a hold on any other further Brady reunions, I doubt there will be any reunions now with both parents and Alice gone.
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Post by sambda on Sept 23, 2018 5:30:38 GMT -5
Well, I didn’t hear anything negative about Betty. Eve Plumb and Maureen McCormick’s feud has put a hold on any other further Brady reunions, How long does this feud go back? Both of them were together in the studio here: https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqi9lpjmDbU but maybe this was before some of the rancour? I also noticed Melissa Sue Anderson/Melissa Gilbert/Alison Arngrim all together on a reunion too, and there is bad feeling there too. Maybe money overcomes these problems. LOL.
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Post by Kyle on Sept 23, 2018 6:36:19 GMT -5
Maureen McCormick published a book ten years ago and during her publicity tour implied that she and Eve Plumb were attracted to each other and had a relationship. Eve was infuriated that she would lie about their friendship to sell a book and has had nothing to do with her since.
Re: Eight is Enough/Betty Buckley: Ralph Senesky, who directed a few episodes of The Waltons (including “The Pony Cart”) has an excellent blog that is worth googling. He has wonderful stories about the shows he directed. One of the “Waltons” producers replied to one of Ralph’s posts about that EIE: “Betty Buckley got the job, not known for her friendliness. On one episode which Harry Harris was directing they got into a little disagreement on how to play a scene and Betty jumped into nearby swimming pool thereby ruining her hair, makeup and wardrobe. Harry came to our set (“You won’t believe what she’s done now.”) and settled down with a cup of coffee while Ms. Buckley dried off.”
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