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Post by mountainmadness on Jun 2, 2009 12:41:54 GMT -5
The one character that seems to be lost in time is Josh. John Walton finds young Josh who is homeless in Season 6. Verdi and Harley Foster adopt Josh in Season 6. Josh appears again in Season 8 and seems to be the same age he was in Season 6 and becomes friends with Rose's grandson, Jeffrey. Then in Season 9, Josh appears again and seems to be the youngest he's ever been!
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Jun 2, 2009 14:09:38 GMT -5
Welcome to the Fourm,'Mountainmadness"! I think I had posted several times on Brenda's Forum or this one about The Stray episode which mountainmadness described. At the beginning of the episode Verdie says she is going to Asheville, North Carolina, where her sister lives because her sister has hurt her foot. Then Josh appears 'out of the blue' so to speak, at the Waltons barn and says that he has walked all the way from North Carolina----I sometimes wondered why they did not make an issue of this apparent coincidence???
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Post by mountainmadness on Jun 5, 2009 11:02:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome! I had not noticed the NC connection. I'll have to look for that the next time I watch it.
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Post by ikemeister on Jun 5, 2009 11:56:16 GMT -5
Speaking of josh, I think todd bridges (willis from different strokes) did a great job and love his longing to be with ralph waite's pa.....
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Jun 7, 2009 16:00:35 GMT -5
DearBrenanne,
In 1993 there had not been any Walton reunions since 1982.Besides the schedule for a 1993 reunion came about at the time of the 30th anniversary of the Kennedy Assasination. If they wanted to have the reunion based on events of 1957 or 1958 that would be fine but they would be talking about the challenge of Sputnik or the Little Rock School Crisis instead of the Kennedy Assasination. However the reunions in 1982 did not mention world events of that time---Lipe Princess Elizabeths wedding and Yankee-Dodger World Series (Which would cause Mary Ellen to remember her childhood wishes!!!!)
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Post by ncwaltonsfan on Jun 8, 2009 5:52:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome! I had not noticed the NC connection. I'll have to look for that the next time I watch it. Welcome to the forum,Mountainmadness. My home state got mentioned quite a few times on the show. Raleigh was mentioned on some episodes. Verdie's sister lived in Asheville. Josh walked to Virginia from North Carolina. Ben received an order from Winston-Salem when he was selling seeds. Stanley Perkins said that something Ike or Corabeth was wearing was made in Linville, a community in the North Carolina mountains. If you know about Grandfather Mountain, it is located in or near Linville.
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Jun 9, 2009 14:36:13 GMT -5
Remember in The Tempest and The Whirlwind Betty Howell and Mary Ellen rode the bus from Amandas Bus Lines to Raleigh together before Mary Ellen continued on to Larksburg, Florida.
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Post by ncwaltonsfan on Jun 10, 2009 3:14:54 GMT -5
Yes,I remember that as well. I think Betty had family in Raleigh. I remember that Rose's husband was an engineer. Rose spoke about how her husband would take her to Raleigh on the train.
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Post by kavan on Jun 12, 2009 20:11:56 GMT -5
I’ve probably put way, way to much thought into making The Whirlwind make any sense whatsoever, but I have considered that episode a great deal so here goes…. I definitely agree that why the writers/producers decision to resurrect Curt has to be one of the biggest Waltons puzzlers ever. Day of Infamy is one of the series best episodes and has such resonance. I still cannot fathom why they decided to pull a redo and have Curt alive. I also think if they were going to bring Curt back doing essentially a one shot he’s not dead but he and Mary Ellen won’t reconcile was an atrocious idea. It would have made more sense to bring Curt back and over a number of episodes show that he and Mary Ellen had simply drifted apart. Instead the show went with a one episode explanation that felt badly conceived and tends to undo the impact of Day of Infamy as well as making season 8‘s The Medal make no sense whatsoever. Both Infamy and Eddie’s story in The Medal put Curt right in the center of action ministering to the sick, yet in The Tempest Curt essentially says he was at a different location. It’s somewhat frustrating but I actually think the time line does work on a time line level. As far as the Curt situation goes, from what I recall, Curt had his unmentionables shot off at Pearl Harbour, but the Waltons were told that he was dead. As a wounded soldier, he would have been shipped back to the States. As much as I don’t care for The Tempest’s remaking of canon, I actually think that writer E.F. Wallengren came up with a decent explanation and timeline for what happened. The Waltons were told around December 8th that Curt was killed tending to the wounded. However, in Florida, Curt stated that he was nowhere near the barracks and was in his civilian clothes when the bombing occurred. Eddie in The Medal stated that Curt saved his life, but later states “It took me awhile to find out who had carried me to cover at Pearl.” Thus, he had no idea who actually saved him, and was going on what he was told. Based on Curt’s account of that day he was not the one who saved Eddie. According to Curt he saw a white flash and then remembered nothing after that. Curt’s story, totally removes the idea he was tending to the wounded, instead suggesting that he was wounded very early in the attack. According to Curt he was unconscious for four months. Thus from December through at the earliest March the Army did believe Curt had died. To add on this I’m assuming that whoever they identified as Curt, saving people and tending to the wounded, wasn’t Curt. Further due to the fact no one notified the Waltons of Curt’s status, I’m assuming he either wasn’t wearing dogtags or ID or the identification got lost. Either way for four months whatever hospital Curt was being treated likely deemed him a John Doe. And as Mary Ellen and the military assumed Curt was dead its likely that no one would have linked a John Doe in the hospital to the Curtis Willard who all parties believed was killed in action. Even when Curt woke up he still didn’t know his name or anything about his life, until “The pieces started falling together.” The Tempest does not give a time line on how long it took for that to occur. Curt also stated that the day he woke up he couldn’t even walk. So again to make an assumption, one can guess that he spent a long while in the hospital healing some of which likely occurred before he had any idea what his identify was.. And during that time one can assume he’d developed some rapport with his doctors and nurses. Even if its not standard procedure he may have convinced them that his family believed he was dead and to simply not inform them otherwise. It may not have been standard procedure, but I think the details support the dramatic license the story needs. While I don’t care for the overall story, I do think the details are well constructed. Curt’s brief explanation clearly suggests the military misidentified the person who saved and tended to the wounded, and had no idea the real Curt was grievously wounded. It’s not a pretty picture but its plausible. I totally agree. The writers seemed to be going for a bickering but loving pair sort of a younger generation of Esther and Zeb. However, most of the time I wasn’t even sure Curt understood or respected Mary Ellen. They just seemed totally mismatched. Judy Norton and Tom Bower are both good actors, but I didn’t see any chemistry between them and the writing never really sold me that they were a good match. I thought she and Jonesy were a much more plausible match, and Richard Gilliland and JN had really good chemistry.
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Post by Tonyray on Jun 21, 2009 12:57:35 GMT -5
The military would have never notified Mary Ellen that Curt had been killed unless they were certain that it was Curt that was killed they would listed him as missing in action.
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Jun 21, 2009 13:58:22 GMT -5
Now is the time to post this----
I believe earlier that some of the latter season episodes and the specials were written by people who had not throgoughly watched the previous series episodes. This may account for why The Tempest and The Whirlwind were out of touch with reality and also for the trips Hazel made overseas in The Idol which contradicted JOHN BOY'S OWN WORDS in The Revelation about the fact that to protect women and girls---WHICH IN THOSE DAYS EVERY MAN FELT IT WAS A DUTY TO DO SO---no women were allowed to enter war zones----
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Post by kavan on Jun 21, 2009 20:31:11 GMT -5
This may account for why The Tempest and The Whirlwind were out of touch with reality and also for the trips Hazel made overseas in The Idol which contradicted JOHN BOY'S OWN WORDS in The Revelation about the fact that to protect women and girls---WHICH IN THOSE DAYS EVERY MAN FELT IT WAS A DUTY TO DO SO---no women were allowed to enter war zones---- Actually the Waltons’ writers had done their homework. Hazel’s story is accurate, women did drive ambulances and serve in non-combat roles throughout World War I. Generations have been taught the old adage women weren‘t near combat, but its not true. After 1915 women were allowed to serve at the front lines as nurses, cooks, ambulance drivers, radio operators and other positions. Despite not being in combat roles these women were close enough to fighting to suffer deprivations and emotional agony as well as physical risk. Nurses and ambulance drivers serving at battle field hospitals risked their lives just as soldiers did. These women performed such heroic feats and the history books mostly ignored them. Over 13,000 American women were in some branch of service during WWI. And while many weren’t in combat positions as many as 40 or more were in zones where combat was occurring. Over 38,000 mostly British women joined the Voluntary Aid Detachment serving as nurses, ambulance drivers and cooks. Agatha Christie was a VAD. Many VADS served in battlefield hospitals very close to the combat. There were also a handful of women combat pilots in WWI The writer Edith Wharton was taken to the trenches and wrote of her experience there. Female entertainers such as Cicely Hamilton performed for troops. Here’s two pages on the VAD’s a group of British nurses during WWI en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Aid_Detachmentwww.micklebring.com/oakwood/ch01.htmHere’s a page on women in WWI userpages.aug.com/captbarb/femvets4.htmlYeoman(F)- A page on females in the service during WWI en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeoman_(F)This site also offers information disputing the women were never near battles and also states women were ambulance drivers. www.firstworldwar.com/features/womenww1_one.htmAnyone interested in reading the account of a woman in WWI should read Vera Brittian’s Testament of Youth. Brittian was college age when the war began and became a nurse at a battlefield hospital and at hospitals in Britain. Her account of her work and of the losses she suffered during the war is really great reading. She embraces some very un-Walton ideas, but the book is very compelling. These women believed that they were serving their duty to their countries and to their beliefs. It wasn't about needing to be protected or sheltered. Many of the women felt the experience liberated them from straight jacketed roles in society. They deserve to be as honored as the men who served in the war.
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Jun 23, 2009 14:41:57 GMT -5
Dear Kavan, While all you have said is true---remember the execution of Edith Cavell and the story of Claira Barton but all of your items concern World War I--which was a brutish struggle which even caused someone to say that World War II was gentle by comparison--I have a CD of Rodger Moynihans comments on how people felt at the time of Word War I in which 200,000 were killed just to advance a few miles----soldiers who had just a few years earlier graduated from Oxford, the Sorbonne, and Heidelberg---but all of your posts are about World War I--we are talking here about women civilians being allowed into open war zones in World War II in which civilians suffered severeley----remember the picture of the Polish girl in tears after her two sisters had been killed by bombings right at the start of World War II----
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Post by Tonyray on Jun 26, 2009 17:57:11 GMT -5
I was watching the episode the first Casualty and when they are at GW funeral they used a 50 star flag on the 50 star flag the star field is off set and on the 48 star flag it's even up and down. 50 star flag 48 star flag
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Post by ikemeister on Sept 6, 2009 8:59:51 GMT -5
Notice too interesting items in the episode "The Innocents" from Season Eight: 1) When Corabeth is trying to remind Ike about their upcoming anniversary by wearing the dress with the cherries: definitely not the dress worn the night Ike proposed!
2) Elizabeth and Aimee's "excitement" when Jason gets them champagne for Corabeth's suprprise dinner: they were less visibly surprised by Corabeth's alcoholism from previous seasons....
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