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Post by wmfan/waltonsportwriter on Oct 24, 2014 16:44:36 GMT -5
I was watching the Torch earlier today, and I know this episode has started some lengthy discussions with different opinions, because John a married man met up with an old female friend and one time flame. But while uncomfortable to some, I think it is about an old friendship rekindled with the opposite sex and not an affair. I have run into these kind of feelings in my own life, and I have been honest with my wife and others . We all have different friends, both online and in person, and sometimes they can become special friendships. But that doesn't mean an affair or anything improper necessarily I think we can have many good friends in life and sometimes they are of the opposite sex. In this episode John met up with Callie Mae who returned to run the Dew Drop Inn. Yes they had a pervious romance somewhat years before, but by this time John is totally dedicated and married to Olivia. It's true Callie had some feelings for John. She is human too, but certainly nothing improper happened and later in the episode John says he had called Olivia so he was honest and all she asked about was Callie's hair color so she trusted John and the situation. She seemed to trust him more than the Waltons family and neighbors that were there. But in the end everything was ok and John, Callie and the family started to become friends but that's as far as we saw it develop. But I understand how a person can be married and still find other friendships. And as long as boundaries are not crossed I believe it's ok. These are my thoughts on the matter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 17:39:11 GMT -5
I agree with you, Paul. Especially since it's rare to have an old friend back in town on Walton's Mountain... it would be strange NOT to want to catch up with that person. She clearly wanted more than friendship, but I believe he handled that with grace and honesty.
I have a few friends who are men, some I have dated in another life, others were platonic. Same thing with my husband. If we weren't so secure in our marriage, it may stir up feelings of jealousy. It just isn't the case with us.
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Post by wmfan/waltonsportwriter on Oct 25, 2014 8:56:59 GMT -5
Very true Nicole and thanks for your comment and thoughts. Yes I believe in the Torch that Callie was lonely and wanted to rekindle an old flame. But John handled it with grace like when Callie tried to kiss him at Ike's store and he said they'll just ha e to settle for a soda. Not all men or women would be so gracious and try to take advantage of the situations. Im glad you have some good friendships with both sexes Nicole and you and yours are secure with that. Take care and talk soon. Paul WM fan  ? |
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Post by JeriJet on Oct 27, 2014 9:40:49 GMT -5
I was watching the Torch earlier today, and I know this episode has started some lengthy discussions with different opinions, because John a married man met up with an old female friend and one time flame. But while uncomfortable to some, I think it is about an old friendship rekindled with the opposite sex and not an affair. I have run into these kind of feelings in my own life, and I have been honest with my wife and others . We all have different friends, both online and in person, and sometimes they can become special friendships. But that doesn't mean an affair or anything improper necessarily I think we can have many good friends in life and sometimes they are of the opposite sex. In this episode John met up with Callie Mae who returned to run the Dew Drop Inn. Yes they had a pervious romance somewhat years before, but by this time John is totally dedicated and married to Olivia. It's true Callie had some feelings for John. She is human too, but certainly nothing improper happened and later in the episode John says he had called Olivia so he was honest and all she asked about was Callie's hair color so she trusted John and the situation. She seemed to trust him more than the Waltons family and neighbors that were there. But in the end everything was ok and John, Callie and the family started to become friends but that's as far as we saw it develop. But I understand how a person can be married and still find other friendships. And as long as boundaries are not crossed I believe it's ok. These are my thoughts on the matter. Excellent, Paul, and I'm glad you brought this episode up -- I don't remember discussing it before.... One thing I always wondered about was if Callie came back mainly because she had heard that Olivia was away.... But, I did like her and, even if she did this, I understand -- as you say, it's only human  ... perhaps she thought that Olivia "was not long for this world" and wanted to be first in line 
The kids and townspeople rather annoyed me with their lack of trust in John.... but I can understand their wanting to protect him, even if misplaced.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 16:20:41 GMT -5
If it was supposed to be purely platonic, wouldn't the writers have titled it The Pals or something platonic?
The Torch implies a flame and I think John thought about it in a non-platonic way at the beginning of the episode.
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Post by patriciaanne on Oct 27, 2014 16:35:10 GMT -5
If it was supposed to be purely platonic, wouldn't the writers have titled it The Pals or something platonic? The Torch implies a flame and I think John thought about it in a non-platonic way at the beginning of the episode. |
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Post by clyde on Oct 30, 2014 12:04:44 GMT -5
As I recall from brief references in this and other episodes, John was a bit of a ladies man in his younger days. Since Callie had not seen him in many years, perhaps she was under the impression that he would be amenable to the shenanigans which she obviously had in mind.
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Post by maxwalton on Nov 1, 2014 15:01:48 GMT -5
This is another "Been there, done that" theme for me. As I move through my fifties and the hair grows grayer and thinner, an occasional meeting with a "Torch" can be a reminder of once was and wonderfully refreshing (as in "Awe Max, I would have loved you if I'd known! ) or painfully numbing (as in, "Max, you look just like your father now."  ). I suspect it was the same for John and Callie. Yes, a Torch is a reunion with an old love but, perhaps more a desire to return to a time when life was a lot less complicated. |
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... perhaps she thought that Olivia "was not long for this world" and wanted to be first in line 
). I suspect it was the same for John and Callie. Yes, a Torch is a reunion with an old love but, perhaps more a desire to return to a time when life was a lot less complicated.