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Post by AR15 on Oct 20, 2012 18:22:32 GMT -5
Had The Waltons been made today, I wonder how different it would be? I wonder if censorship for the family audience is stronger today than it was back in the 70s/80s? I know that, in general, television censorship is obviously more lax today, but I think that there are things in The Waltons that wouldn't be included in shows that children might watch today. For example, there are a surprising number of times that the theme of rape seems to come up, I also can't imagine Ben smoking would be shown today. What does everybody else think?
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Oct 20, 2012 18:46:40 GMT -5
Ben's smoking on The System occurred right about four years(1970-1974) after the Bradys had an episode against smoking
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Post by carol on Oct 21, 2012 0:26:03 GMT -5
I think censorship is more lax now then back in the 70's and 80's. Today we would see John Boy get deflowered and Ben would have smoked a joint.
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Post by baseballfan on Oct 21, 2012 0:59:14 GMT -5
I believe censorship is way more relaxed today. All you have to do is look at all the cartoons on comedy central. Have any of you seen Drawn together or Daniel Toshs Brickelberry they would make a sailor blush. Heck Southpark is on at any time of the day anymore. An if any of you have watched the new show Revolution my wife an I have counted an they have used the word DICK three times in two episodes. We are older parents an have young children an we find that we are frequently having to change the channel when the kids come into the room. Luckily there not at the age yet where they will sit for long periods in front of the television yet. We both agree we need to figure what were going to do when that time comes, something rotten is always on somewhere if you have cable. Even the House wives dribble is rude an crude. David
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Post by ForeverWaltons on Oct 21, 2012 7:23:14 GMT -5
baseballfan.....I know exactly what you mean! We have 6 kids still at home. Ages 4, 8, 10, 12, 14 & 16. Back when my brother & I was growing up our folks could let us sit down in front of the tv with no worries. It was I Love Lucy, Gilligan's Island, The Brady Bunch, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, The Waltons, Little House on the Prairie, etc....Some of these were already being "reruns" & today they all are & are considered classics.
It makes me shudder to think what garbage on tv today will be considered classics in the future?? The way the world is changing, I'm sure some of them will be. On Gunsmoke & Bonanza when someone got shot they did not show a gaping hole or blood, now they show all the gore on the shows today. It's also sad how most of the shows today have to constantly talk about sex or is full of sexually innuendo & every other word is a cuss word. The late great actors Ben Johnson & Richard Farnsworth refused to cuss in any of their movies/tv shows. Shortly before his death, Richard Farnsworth, when asked by film critic Roger Ebert, what he was most proud of in regard to his acting career, he replied that it was the fact that in over 60 movies he never says one cuss word. How many actors feel that way today? Or can say that today?
When I was growing up a G rated movie was exactly that....for general audiences. It is so rare today to see a new movie that is rated G that it's not funny. I don't remember the name of the last G rated movie but it was just in the past 2 to 4 years & it had a cuss word in it! Unbelievable!! How did they think it was rated G? I personally believe that if some movie studio or tv network would actually try to produce a quality written movie/show without the sex & cussing that it would be successful.
Leave the sex & cussing out & you will not offend anyone. Leave it in & you will always offend someone. I thought it truly was a sad day when Disney jumped on board with all of the others! Of course, it happened years after Walt Disney died. As we say in the south I'm sure Walt Disney was/is rolling over in his grave!! But that is just my personal opinion.
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Post by awesomemixtape10 on Oct 22, 2012 4:23:52 GMT -5
Forever Waltons, If youu havent seen "The Straight Story" with Richard Farnsworth, you have to see it. He was awesome in that, Censorship...... I tell ya what, I was watching a Conan The Barbarian movie on AMC awhile back, and they blurred out a womans breast that wasnt even in the forefront of the scene. i t was in the background However, about a minute later they showed a gruesome death scene unedited. Another thing, whose chooses what words are not fit for tv anyway? I mean , I know it is the FCC, but why is" $hit" not allowed but "Crap" is allowed. Why is "PEE" allowed and not "Pi$$". Why is the F word banned but "screw" allowed ? Who made these words "dirty" ? was there a vote or something? One last thing-You ever notice how some Religious people are about sex and violence on TV, But the Bible is FULL OF SEX AND VIOLENCE !!!! ?? THat Book Is HOLY, and it is FULL of that kind of stuff. some of that stuff reads like "letters to Penthouse" What was that Verse John boy tells that kid to say in " The Homecoming" ? I dont feel like looking it up .The one about "Thy 2 breasts are like lillies in the field..." or something.
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Post by AR15 on Oct 22, 2012 7:52:51 GMT -5
Another thing, whose chooses what words are not fit for tv anyway? I mean , I know it is the FCC, but why is" $hit" not allowed but "Crap" is allowed. Why is "PEE" allowed and not "Pi$$". Why is the F word banned but "screw" allowed ? Who made these words "dirty" ? was there a vote or something? This isn't related to The Waltoms really, but what counts as 'swearing' or offensive language, is quite an interesting subject. I've read a couple of books about the history of the language and, back in say the 13th century, words that would be really, really explicit today, would have been commonly used. On the other hand, in the 19th century, somebody went to jail for saying the word "darn" in court! And I don't know about any of you, but here 'darn' is definitely not an offensive word. I find the development of language a very interesting subject.
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Post by daniela on Oct 22, 2012 10:28:40 GMT -5
I wonder who made up the f word and all the others? Funny, how as a society, we have accepted those words as " bad " , and some people are very offended by them. I wonder if it is because of the meanings of the words, or how they are used, or what tone they are said.
Interesting read AR15. It is something to think about.
I wonder if someone will come up with a new " bad" word one day?
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Post by JeriJet on Oct 22, 2012 12:24:28 GMT -5
In a commercial I've seen a lot lately (can't remember right now what it is advertising) depicting a family (mom, dad, kids) ..... they use the phrase "Shut the front door" about something....
Don't they realize that's a euphemism for you know what...... Do they think they are being terribly clever ?? ..... I HATE hearing that..... I want to write to their company president and tell him I will never buy their product because of it.... !!!
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Post by Tonyray on Oct 22, 2012 12:46:32 GMT -5
I know some of the shows are on late at night but the commercials advertising them can be on any time of the day. I was watching about a week ago and a commercial for 2 1/2 men was on Saturday around noon it was one with charlie Sheen and what he said I couldn't believe was said on TV let alone Sat. at noon when they know small children are watching.
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Post by Tonyray on Oct 22, 2012 12:49:01 GMT -5
In a commercial I've seen a lot lately (can't remember right now what it is advertising) depicting a family (mom, dad, kids) ..... they use the phrase "Shut the front door" about something.... Don't they realize that's a euphemism for you know what...... Do they think they are being terribly clever ?? ..... I HATE hearing that..... I want to write to their company president and tell him I will never buy their product because of it.... !!! I have seen it Oreo fudge creme Cookies
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Post by awesomemixtape10 on Oct 22, 2012 16:45:31 GMT -5
That's what I was trying to get at, AR15. Who decided when they invented these words that they were profane...
" Hey, I am going to make up a word and convince society it is nasty so it is banned for centuries"
pretty wild.
dont get me wrong.. Using the Lords name in vain is wrong.
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Post by bucky on Oct 22, 2012 17:23:59 GMT -5
I read an article about profanity some years ago which argued that much of it referenced sexual violence against women. That's certainly evident today in movies and television, although I'm not sure the common everyday swearing that people indulge in is anything more than bad habits or a failure of language skills. I know the men in my family did not use the f word in our presence as my mother wouldn't have stood for it.
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Post by goodnight on Oct 22, 2012 17:59:38 GMT -5
Another thing, whose chooses what words are not fit for tv anyway? I mean , I know it is the FCC, but why is" $hit" not allowed but "Crap" is allowed. Why is "PEE" allowed and not "Pi$$". Why is the F word banned but "screw" allowed ? Who made these words "dirty" ? was there a vote or something? This isn't related to The Waltoms really, but what counts as 'swearing' or offensive language, is quite an interesting subject. I've read a couple of books about the history of the language and, back in say the 13th century, words that would be really, really explicit today, would have been commonly used. On the other hand, in the 19th century, somebody went to jail for saying the word "darn" in court! And I don't know about any of you, but here 'darn' is definitely not an offensive word. I find the development of language a very interesting subject. I have heard that you can get some kind of electronic device that will beep out profanity. Or maybe that option might be included in some of the newer TV's. I have noticed when some movies and stuff are run on network TV, if they don't remove the bad word altogether, they will replace it with something stupid. For example, when they show Back to the Future on TBS or something. When Biff calls Marty a son of a b****, it will be dubbed son of a butthead. Talking about the origin of bad words. $hit for example. Someone sent this to me in an email once. In the days of old wooden sailing ships, when manure used for fertilizer was transported on a ship, if it was below decks it would get wet and start composting. This would give off an explosive gas. Someone comes down and lights a match. BOOM. When they figured this out, they started labeling it Ship High In Transit. I wonder how much the producers of Gone with the Wind had to pay as a fine to get "Frankly my dear, I don't give a ......" in their movie back in 1939?
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Post by awesomemixtape10 on Oct 22, 2012 18:00:44 GMT -5
"Ship High In Transit." that's funny
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