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Post by Marilyn on Nov 3, 2011 21:13:06 GMT -5
Watched the episode on INSP tonight where Cora Beth is being wooed by someone she used to know in school. She gets all dressed up and goes to town to meet him, changes her mind, comes back home to a sad looking Ike, who knows exactly what she was doing but doesn't say a word. I felt so bad for him!   This is an odd episode too, in that it doesn't end with us looking at the big white house, listening to the Waltons say good-night. Instead, we get to see the store and listen to Ike and Cora Beth. Happy ending! |
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Post by jennifer on Nov 3, 2011 22:12:05 GMT -5
Yeah, Marilyn, I always feel bad for Ike in that episode too. But Cora-Beth does redeem herself after she realizes how much Ike means to her. She comes home and tells him "I do love you" and I can't remember if she calls him the usual "Mr. Godsey" or actually calls him Ike.
I love Ike--he was such a likable character, and last year when I got to meet Joe Conley at the reunion, I found that he is just as likable, if not more!!
And interestingly, when asked about his off-screen relationship with Ronnie Claire-Edwards, he said that although she was (is) very nice and extremely professional, they didn't really interact much off camera. When the cameras stopped rolling, they just sort of went their separate ways...until the next scene together....it's kind of hard for me to imagine that, what with the great chemistry they had as Ike and Cora-Beth.
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Post by markb on Nov 4, 2011 8:54:14 GMT -5
Good post Marilyn. I didn't see the episode tonight but remember it, and I kind of had a similar reaction but then agreed with jennifer that even though Ike feels badly about it, whatever glue kept them together worked.
On the other hand, Ike could have done much better, I think we'd all agree. And Corabeth probably shouldn't have settled for somebody she didn't really see a match with. Some marriages are like that and work.
Thanks for the comment jennifer, that's pretty interesting. It makes me think how hard it would be to be an actor. You'd have to form this different relationship with somebody on camera that you might not have in reality. Especially if you really couldn't stand them.
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Post by JeriJet on Nov 4, 2011 10:51:54 GMT -5
What fun it is to intensely dislike an actor you're working with and then prove to yourself and others that you can rise above it !!! In all roles, the actor is portraying someone in many ways quite different from himself or herself -- that's what acting is all about..... If you can't do that, you're not an "actor".....
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Post by River on Nov 4, 2011 18:52:36 GMT -5
What fun it is to intensely dislike an actor you're working with and then prove to yourself and others that you can rise above it !!! In all roles, the actor is portraying someone in many ways quite different from himself or herself -- that's what acting is all about..... If you can't do that, you're not an "actor"..... Who intensely disliked who? Joe Conley said Ronnie Claire-Edwards was professional and nice, they just didn't interact with each other off screen. |
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Post by Marilyn on Nov 4, 2011 19:06:36 GMT -5
It's funny too, how much Cora Beth changed from the day she walked into the Walton house and Grandma called her 'Cory' and then the way she was at the store much later, so educated and refined. Two completely different characters, but I tell you what...she added alot of spice to that store and if she had been a very average and quiet wife, the store would have been kind of mundane. She got lucky getting Ike for a husband. I have a crush on Ike the storekeeper!
Just came to mind that in one of the later episodes she wants to get gussied up and celebrate their anniversary and asks Ike if he recognizes a dress she is holding up. He says no and she says it's the one she wore on their first date, but it's not!
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Post by JeriJet on Nov 4, 2011 21:35:01 GMT -5
What fun it is to intensely dislike an actor you're working with and then prove to yourself and others that you can rise above it !!! In all roles, the actor is portraying someone in many ways quite different from himself or herself -- that's what acting is all about..... If you can't do that, you're not an "actor"..... Who intensely disliked who? Joe Conley said Ronnie Claire-Edwards was professional and nice, they just didn't interact with each other off screen. I wasn't talking about The Waltons..... I was talking about my experiences with acting. |
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Post by catindakota on Nov 5, 2011 9:08:54 GMT -5
Marilyn, you are so right about the 'metamorphosis' of of Cora Beth from her first appearance at John and Olivia's front door, to the later years. She was so meek and mild, hardly any make-up, nothing like the later years. I had wondered about it many, many times. I assume it was just a transformation over time that was facilitated by the writers, in order for her to play the role as the story lines changed and varied over the years. If her and Ike had been syrupy and sweet all the time, it would have been very boring. There were times I felt badly for Ike as well, he was so head over heels for her and it was so obvious to everyone. Seemed like she loved to get her 'Little Barbs' into him whenever she had the opportunity to knock him down a peg or two - probably wouldn't have been so bad, but she usually knocked him down a peg or two in FRONT of other people. I'm trying to remember that dress - was it white, with little red cherries or something on it? Did it have a sweetheart neckline and cap sleeves/ maybe sleeveless? Trying to remember the DRESS!!
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Post by JeriJet on Nov 5, 2011 13:52:27 GMT -5
I wonder what they meant by their first date -- that dinner at the Waltons'.... or first date alone?
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Post by Marilyn on Nov 5, 2011 18:54:08 GMT -5
Yes Cat,that was the dress and it had a deep neckline, but when she first came to town and went out with Ike, she wore a dress, a dowdy one, that was buttoned up to her neck! I love the Cora Beth character. She's all spice and adds so much to Ike's life!
I'm trying think of what episode she whipped out that dress in front of Ike, but can't come up with it right now. It was a much later season.
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Post by bmack14 on Nov 6, 2011 9:44:04 GMT -5
I love the Cora Beth character as well, I could listen to her speak all day. She speaks so articulately almost musical. People think she sounds so stuffy (she does) but I find it interesting the way she sounds. And JeriJet, I agree with you, one has to be very talented when working with someone you can't stand, to pull it off and make it believable. People have to do that in their everyday lives when they have a boss they can't stand. LOL Unfortunately, I am a who you see is whoI am kind of girl and have a difficult time pulling it off. Doesn't come naturally to me.
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Post by JeriJet on Nov 6, 2011 11:31:15 GMT -5
bmack -- I am frequently told I'm too "direct" -- I guess that's the same thing in some ways. I tell it like it is. Don't have the patience for skirting issues!
But, I'm also told that I am a very fair and generous person. So, they balance out, right ?!
And, oh, man, I can't count the number of times I ditched a job because I couldn't stand my boss! Think of the nice pension I could have if I hadn't done that!!
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Post by bucky on Nov 7, 2011 20:05:18 GMT -5
If you read Joe Conley's book about Ike Godsey and the Waltons, you'll find he said something similar about Ralph Waite - that he didn't socialize much on the set. I came away from it thinking that Joe was a very different personality in real life than his portrayal of Ike would suggest. Much more business like than artistic in his approach to acting - and was in fact an ad pitchman and real estate salesman on the side. He acted that part wonderfully (and I think both he and Ronny Clare deserved Emmy recognition), but I'd take his comments on co-workers with a grain of salt. I thought Mary McDonough had a much more reflective take on the cast members, even though she was a child for most of the run.
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Post by childfree23 on Nov 8, 2011 16:22:28 GMT -5
I agree that Ronnie Claire Edwards was excellent on the show. It became obvious once Cora Beth's character was established that Ms. Edwards' training was in theater. It's just the way she presented herself in the character.
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