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Post by dfnmeows44 on Jan 23, 2011 15:21:01 GMT -5
People seem to be omore interested in comfort than in modest appearance!
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Post by davidm on Jan 23, 2011 17:28:08 GMT -5
There is some confusion in some of these statements. John Boy's dirty pants. There was a thread not too long ago where folks were talking about the children being too lazy, not doing any chores. There are episodes where John boy and the other children are helping out in the mill, the garden, with the animals, etc. Pants are going to get dirty and stained, especially in rural areas during the Depression era. Part of the dirty pants look would have to show that these were poor folks who had to work hard to provide for themselves. For me the dirty pants is realistic. I see them more as stained then just plain dirty. Do we want the Walton children to be lazy but clean, or working and dirty?
The length of Elizabeth's dresses are typical. They may have tried to keep the character a small child longer than they should, such as keeping her in pigtails too long too, but I don't see immorality in it. Even though I was born after the Depression I did grow up with several older siblings. We kept clothes for many, many years; till they wore out. Remember in one episode Mary Ellen got in a fight with a boy because he was picking on Jim Boy. Jim Bob was sent to school wearing a shirt that use to be one of his sister's. Mamma said, "They're clean and you'll wear them." She wasn't trying to turn her youngest son into a cross dresser, they wore what they had.
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Post by bucky on Jan 23, 2011 18:04:49 GMT -5
Two things: One, suggesting that Elizabeth's dress length was historically inaccurate for her age, or that it was inappropriate,are not the same things as saying it was immoral. That's a whole different kettle of fish. Secondly, John-Boy wore those pants everywhere and if they truly were his work pants (I mean to do something other than hold a pen), than he would have been expected to put on 'clean' clothes when he went into town, to church, etc. That was the country way, no matter how poor you were. All the rest of the kids were presented as clean. So John-boy's pants were an anomaly. I think Richard Thomas just liked them.
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Post by Marilyn on Jan 23, 2011 23:03:52 GMT -5
JB's pants looked horrible most of the time. I noticed he was the only one with pants that looked that dirty. Wish I knew the true story behind them, the SET story, not the Walton's story.
I'm going through the Walton's series for maybe the 6th or 7th time and yes, at times the kids, just like most kids, whined and dug their heels in the dirt when it came to doing chores. That's life. I was the same way.
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Post by davidm on Feb 3, 2011 15:55:41 GMT -5
I've been watching season 4 and I've noticed that there's a big blue patch on Ben's pants. They look clean and new, just a big blue patch on the bottom right leg.
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Post by davidm on Feb 9, 2011 15:49:01 GMT -5
Last night I watched the episode when grandma got sick and Erin had to leave the telephone exchange to find Sheriff Bridges. Her dress came right down to the knees. Olivia's was halfway between the knees and ankles. I really wasn't concerned about the length of dresses/skirts until the mini skirts became the fad, and the "V" neckline dropped below the cleavage level.
I was watching a video of the history of pop music with a friend a couple weeks ago. The #8 most popular pop group according to this video are The Supremes. These ladies dressed modestly, but when they showed Mariah Carry talking about how classy Diana Ross is, Mariah was wearing a top where her breasts were almost completely exposed. He "V" shaped neckline came down to her naval. I don't get it. It just looked trashy to me. Is this over sexualizaton so overdone that we've become immune to it's effects?
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Post by missnathalivintage on Aug 15, 2012 21:06:09 GMT -5
Was'nt there a fad in the 1930's for young men were they wore dirty corduroys -- the dirtier, the better and crisp white shirts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 21:56:52 GMT -5
Wow, you must have used a shovel to dig up this thread.
I have no idea if there was a trend or not. I hope not. I can't imagine that people of the Depression would want anything dirty on them as it might have been a symbol of poverty or the dumb farmer image from the dust-bowl.
Who knows
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Post by goodnight on Aug 15, 2012 22:36:25 GMT -5
In the episode where Livy is learning to drive, there is a scene where she is asking Johnboy what something means in the driving rule book. Erin is in the room with them and her skirt looks way too short to me. In the early seventies, this is my Grandpa's comment about short skirts at the local high school everytime he drove by there. He called it mini skirt junction.
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Post by carol on Aug 17, 2012 1:21:43 GMT -5
I think Earl was showing that there wasn't money during the depression to buy new clothes so the kids wore their too short dresses, stained or patched pants until they literally wore out. or were handed down to a younger sibling when they outgrew them. Elizabeth being so much younger and smaller than Erin the next oldest girl didn't have many hand me downs so she had to wear the same too short dresses until she grew into Erin's clothes.
I'm sure the Hamner/Walton kids didn't dress any worse than anybody else in the area at that time.
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Post by goodnight on Aug 17, 2012 8:30:16 GMT -5
I have heard older relatives speak about flour coming in sacks made of pretty printed cloth during that time and in years before. And they would sometimes make clothes from them when they had enough saved for the right amount of material.
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Post by River on Aug 17, 2012 9:09:07 GMT -5
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Post by River on Aug 17, 2012 9:11:42 GMT -5
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Post by marylou01 on Aug 17, 2012 16:51:33 GMT -5
Marilyn that's a cute pic! I rem wearing short dresses, maybe I was 5 or 6. I also rem being a pre teen/teen and wearing what was called a "sizzler" dress that had matching "panties" that you wore over your underware. They were more like a tennis or cheerleader outfit. This would have been '75 '76...... did anyone else wear these?
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Aug 19, 2012 12:38:44 GMT -5
I remember the short dresses which were 'complemented'by either fishnet stockings or very long white socks that almost touched the lower part of the knee.
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