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Post by hollygirl on Sept 6, 2009 4:33:37 GMT -5
hmmm, I only read the book but don't remember anything sexual in it and I read it recently along with The Homecoming. There was only a very appropriate father son talk regarding the fact that the way livestock mate is not the way people mate in that a man should treat a woman much different!
Even on the Waltons there is strong innuendo that dad and grandpa aren't at all upset at the idea that their boys might be learning the ways of men. I'm thinking of when Jason ends up out all night at that girl's place (not doing anything) in I think it's The Breakdown and when he comes meekly home and sees dad and grandpa they smile and give him a good ribbing and say what they "called" it when they were young as he tries to say nothing happened. Even Bobby Bigelow tells John Boy he thinks Jason may be growing up faster than they thought and John Boy thinks and then smiles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2009 9:45:38 GMT -5
"there is strong innuendo that dad and grandpa aren't at all upset at the idea that their boys might be learning the ways of men. "
Kind of like it is okay to "sow wild oats".
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Post by anne on Sept 6, 2009 13:44:25 GMT -5
We get conditioned to think that certain things in movies and on tv are ok. The more objectionable material that we see, the more it becomes familiar, and we soon think it's not that bad or innapropriate.
Most movies and tv shows now are certainly worse than they were 20 or 30 years ago as far as this sort of thing goes. They would probably be good without all that sex, violence and bad language. There were some that were good without those things. Parts of Spencer's Mountain are great, but the parts that aren't keep me from it.
One of the definitions of being a prude is being modest. A person of modesty. I am definately a modest person, and I am for modesty in everything.
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Post by john8486 on Sept 7, 2009 15:55:30 GMT -5
I finished the book Spencer's Mountain this weekend, and just finished watching the movie again. I really liked the book, and I am still curious as to why the setting of the movie was changed from Virginia to the Grand Teton mountains. I like the setting of Virginia much better. I do have a question. Spencer's Mountain seem to cover the period of Clay-Boy's senior year in high school, and the summer following graduation. We then go through the period of time waiting for the decision on college, etc. It still doesn't fit the Great Depression era in my opinion, but I guess that really doesn't matter. What do others think ? Anyway, it is all a great story.
Then, when we look at The Homecoming, the period of time is Christmans 1933, which I would certainly believe is before Clay / John-Boy's senior year. Spencer's Mountain, the book and movie, came before The Homecoming in their publishing and filming dates. So do we look at The Homecoming as a "prequel" to the rest of the story ? I don't want to seem overly analytical, but I have developed an interest in the time of the stories, and how they fit into Mr. Hamner's life. I have also developed an interest in the actual area of Virginia, Nelson County, where Mr. Hamner grew up. Mr. Hamner does mention the county by name in Spencer's the book, and mentions a section of New Dominion that actually exists in Schuyler. Anyway, that is the kind of stuff I am looking at in the stories.
What does everbody else think?
Now, I will read The Homecoming the book, and then watch the movie again. This will probaly lead me to start the entire dvd set again. I think that was my plan to start with.
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Post by Brenda on Sept 7, 2009 16:43:53 GMT -5
John, You have made some very good points. I have no idea why the setting was changed from Virginia to the Grand Tetons, nor why it was changed from the depression era to late 1950s/early 60s. I do know that I have read something or heard from Earl Hamner himself that the changes were not his idea and he had no control over it. It would be great if he would come on the forum and tell us his thoughts on the Spencer's Mountain movie. In spite of the changes, though, I do believe the movie captured the spirit of the book. I have also read or heard that Earl Hamner did indeed write The Homecoming as a prequel to Spencer's Mountain. You may be over analytical, but I've often been accused of being too analytical myself, so it doesn't bother me at all. "Now, I will read The Homecoming the book, and then watch the movie again. This will probaly lead me to start the entire dvd set again. I think that was my plan to start with." Sounds like a plan to me! Brenda
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