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Post by runhard on Jul 16, 2022 4:23:42 GMT -5
Word has it that the producers had some regret after they killed off G.W. in The First Casualty but here's my question had G.W. not been written out of the show would he and Erin eventually have married? Okay, Erin saw G.W. as a good friend as she said in The Volunteer but after hearing of his death was her grief and sadness more guilt that he enlisted because she turned him down or was it because deep down she really was in love with him? Remember in The Empty Nest at the grave site she tells Grandpa, "if you see G.W. tell him I love him." I think deep down she had some regret but on the other hand The First Casualty was a superb episode and very meaningful because it made the family and those around them realize the war was coming.
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Post by missyou123 on Jul 16, 2022 8:49:02 GMT -5
Hmmm…. I think she really loved him. It seems that she was always somewhat hesitant because she looked at GW as Mary Ellen’s hand me down. I don’t think she would have gone through all she did to get her parents consent if she didn’t love him. Also, remember how after he left Jim-Bob was looking for her and found her writing a letter to GW. Jim-Bob said, “Why are you writing to him already? You just saw him”. Natural response when someone says they are only friends.
If he had not been killed off, I think they may have eventually gotten married. It may not have happened right away but after what Erin went through with other men, if GW was single I really think she would have tried to get him back and given the type of person he was, if he were single I think he would have taken her back. I loved GW and when he was killed off it was like loosing a relative.
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Post by Easton on Jul 16, 2022 17:57:50 GMT -5
Then there was the episode (The Volunteer) in which Erin convinces her father to let her go visit G.W. in Virginia Beach. After a night out with friends, G.W. walks Erin back to the boarding house where she is staying and suggests that they take their relationship to the 'next level'.
Drew tries the same thing with Elizabeth a few years later.
I truly believe that Erin and G.W. would have ended up together had he lived.
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Post by carol on Jul 16, 2022 23:47:48 GMT -5
If the producers had some regret then why not bring him back from the dead like they did with Curt?
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Post by Easton on Jul 17, 2022 7:35:53 GMT -5
^ And we all know how well that went over, don't we?
There may have been some regrets in killing him off, but his death certainly got the message across. I just wish they had let it be accidental and left the rabbit out of it.
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Post by missyou123 on Jul 17, 2022 7:42:45 GMT -5
If the producers had some regret then why not bring him back from the dead like they did with Curt? Right. I think it would have been more realistic bringing him back than Curt.
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Post by missyou123 on Jul 17, 2022 7:46:37 GMT -5
^ And we all know how well that went over, don't we?
There may have been some regrets in killing him off, but his death certainly got the message across. I just wish they had let it be accidental and left the rabbit out of it.
Yes Easton. The message was clearly given. I too wish they had left out the rabbit. It took away from the point. It would have been more realistic if he had lost his life in the actual war than because of a rabbit. Makes me think they were trying to emphasize GW’s compassion more than his manhood.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 21:14:26 GMT -5
^ And we all know how well that went over, don't we? There may have been some regrets in killing him off, but his death certainly got the message across. I just wish they had let it be accidental and left the rabbit out of it.
Yes Easton. The message was clearly given. I too wish they had left out the rabbit. It took away from the point. It would have been more realistic if he had lost his life in the actual war than because of a rabbit. Makes me think they were trying to emphasize GW’s compassion more than his manhood. I thought the rabbit thing was weird when I watched it on the original run. The only thing I know about it was that someone other than a family member had to die to bring the war close to home. I guess we viewers were not close enough to Curt for his death to have the same effect or maybe, they did not know they were going to kill off Curt when they chose to do in GW.
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Post by carol on Jul 17, 2022 21:19:34 GMT -5
If the producers had some regret then why not bring him back from the dead like they did with Curt? Right. I think it would have been more realistic bringing him back than Curt. It certainly wouldn't have been any more ridiculous than bringing back Curt.
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Post by missyou123 on Jul 18, 2022 8:09:50 GMT -5
Right. I think it would have been more realistic bringing him back than Curt. It certainly wouldn't have been any more ridiculous than bringing back Curt. Exactly. Bringing Curt back didn’t offer any significant points. Obviously Curt didn’t want to be with her anymore or he would have found her. On the other hand, bringing GW back would have created some new and interesting storylines. Oh well.
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Post by Easton on Jul 18, 2022 15:23:42 GMT -5
For the life of me, I can't think of a single way they could have brought him back without completely destroying the integrity of the show.
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Post by Brenda on Jul 18, 2022 16:55:12 GMT -5
I’m so glad they didn’t bring G.W. back. The biggest mistake of the entire series was bringing back Curt’s character.
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Post by runhard on Jul 19, 2022 0:24:14 GMT -5
If the producers had some regret then why not bring him back from the dead like they did with Curt? I'll tell you what that was a stretch bringing back Curt in The Tempest after honoring him in The Medal and why I thought as much as I love The Waltons it should've ended with The Empty Nest. Although years ago while in film school I met Lawrence Katzman who was a producer on Dallas and for my mom I asked him about JR Ewing being shot dead and he answered like this, unless you see dirt getting shoveled on the body no one's dead. We saw G.W. buried so not to much of a chance bringing him back and with Curt it could happen even though the explanation was shaky after supposedly being killed at Pearl Harbor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 16:48:09 GMT -5
If the producers had some regret then why not bring him back from the dead like they did with Curt? We saw G.W. buried so not to much of a chance bringing him back and with Curt it could happen even though the explanation was shaky after supposedly being killed at Pearl Harbor. Good point. How did the military explain that Curt died? Did they say that no body was found? If they had a body, that would be no different bringing him back than bringing GW back. When I was a kid, I thought my hamster died so I gave him a funeral and buried him. He showed up in the backyard days later so there is always a chance of one coming back to life.
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Post by goodnight on Jul 19, 2022 20:18:47 GMT -5
Were there not two different soldiers that came to visit Mary Ellen to talk about Curt? And I think maybe one of them said he saw Curt die. Unless I'm recalling it wrong. However they never had a burial for him.
In the case of G.W. didn't Curt witness his death since they were stationed at the same military base? Maybe he didn't witness it but he was the one that told them how G.W. died.
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