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Post by carol on Apr 17, 2022 21:05:13 GMT -5
I'm watching the last reunion movie A Walton Easter. Olivia is teaching school. When did Olivia get a teaching degree? By 1969 when this took place a teacher had to have a teaching degree no matter if she was a full time teacher of substitute.
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Post by e knight on Apr 17, 2022 23:02:12 GMT -5
I'm sure that state regulations varied.
In South Carolina, circa 1980, I managed to get teaching jobs with just a B.A. in Zoology, and few ":Education" courses and absolutely no "student teaching" assignments. Y'see, whereas you could shake a tree and a dozen English/Social Studies/Psychology/Art/Music majors would fall out, but math/science teachers were hard to find.
At least that's what they told me. The reality is that the teachers were organized enough to insure that anybody new to the racket got awful; assignments -- all that counted was seniority."Just give us all lots more money, and maybe things will get better." We were supervised by functional illiterates, the they protected fellow incompetents. The principal was a jargon-sporting sycophantic moron.
South Carolina had a motto in those days: "Thank God for Mississippi." That state often kept us from them ranking 50th amongst the states. Now, I think they're far more rational, but that attitude has moved on and infected other, "better-rated" states that I shall not name.
Now, this may have been justified: My school was so awful that, given all the "bus duty" I'd have gladly traded all of my calculus and microbiology for some Kung Fu. I bailed as soon as I could for a real job, as did many others.
Sorry, sorry, got carried away. However, if a candidate flashes an "Education" credential, I will vote for the other person.,
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Post by goodnight on Apr 18, 2022 0:43:32 GMT -5
Well what were the laws in the 1930's when she substituted 2 times for Miss Hunter. Was that where you just had to take a test and get a teaching certificate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2022 7:23:36 GMT -5
Well what were the laws in the 1930's when she substituted 2 times for Miss Hunter. Was that where you just had to take a test and get a teaching certificate. We all well remember Laura's teaching credential test... and then the real one where she seems to come in from recess and the superintendent of the schools asks her a few questions and she was off to buy new dress and heals and the rest is history. |
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Post by JessicaGirlSpy on Apr 18, 2022 9:32:33 GMT -5
Sometimes the best teachers don't have a teaching degree. About three years ago, I had an amazing math tutor. She could explain concepts brilliantly. I still find algebra, geometry, etc difficult ( let's face it- I'll always be the " dumb one" in the family. Nothing like my brother's and sisters, or mum and dad) but what she has taught me has helped me tremendously. She has no teaching degree- just a bachelor's in math.
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Post by dayton3 on Apr 18, 2022 9:41:42 GMT -5
I'm watching the last reunion movie A Walton Easter. Olivia is teaching school. When did Olivia get a teaching degree? By 1969 when this took place a teacher had to have a teaching degree no matter if she was a full time teacher of substitute. You don't need a teaching degree to teach school in many places. I taught for 12 years without one. From 2003 to 2015. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2022 10:10:05 GMT -5
I'm watching the last reunion movie A Walton Easter. Olivia is teaching school. When did Olivia get a teaching degree? By 1969 when this took place a teacher had to have a teaching degree no matter if she was a full time teacher of substitute. You don't need a teaching degree to teach school in many places. I taught for 12 years without one. From 2003 to 2015. Hmm, they have waived a lot in California. Subs can get in with hardly anything but the BA/BS. www.ctc.ca.gov/credentials/req-substitute |
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Post by Kyle on Apr 18, 2022 12:07:11 GMT -5
Also, Livvie was taking college classes in “A Walton Wedding.” Perhaps she got a teaching credential as part of those studies.
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Post by dayton3 on Apr 19, 2022 9:19:42 GMT -5
The reality is that the teachers were organized enough to insure that anybody new to the racket got awful; assignments -- all that counted was seniority.", There are actual reasons behind that madness. I learned it from a long time principal. Teachers after they've taught for a year or three are extremely hard to fire. So new teachers are always assigned the absolute worst classes, worst s chedules, worst students if at all possible. The thinking being that if they can't handle it they'll leave on their own. If they can come out the other side okay then things will get easier for them. |
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