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Post by Easton on Nov 13, 2020 18:31:45 GMT -5
It seems every cycle of The Waltons on VisionTV has more and more scenes edited out so they can stick in commercials. Sometimes it gets to the point where the storyline begins to lose integrity and you wonder how they got from Point A to Point B.
I just finished watching The Ceremony (the 'bar mitzvah' episode in which, funnily enough, Ben doesn't understand what a Jew is) and there were 2 major edits. The first was after David fell down the attic stairs and John-Boy was thrown out of the house. The scene cut away to commercial and the next scene began with John-Boy knocking on the door and telling the father that he was very wrong yelling at John-Boy and throwing him out. The entire conversation between John and John-Boy had been cut out.
The other edit was after John-Boy takes David to Charlottesville to talk with the rabbi. David's parents go to the Walton home to discover that David wasn't there. As they're talking, John-Boy and David return and David ends up angry at his father and runs away. Cut away to commercial. The next scene, David is in John-Boy's bed and his mother is sitting beside him and comforting him. Olivia is in the doorway saying that she was making soup for David. No mention of what happened to him.
It's annoying that The Ceremony allowed 10 minutes for 3 commercial breaks and the network edits out another 10 minutes or so to stick in more commercials.
Those of you who are also annoyed for commercial editing please raise your hand.
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Post by Brenda on Nov 13, 2020 19:40:05 GMT -5
The boy’s name was Paul, not David. He was played by the actor Radames Pera who played John Jr on Little House on the Prairie.
Edited to add: I agree with you about the editing. It is very annoying. INSP is the worst. 🙋🏻♀️
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Post by Easton on Nov 13, 2020 21:43:10 GMT -5
Right. Paul. I mixed him up with his father's name.
I've always thought it was curious that Ben couldn't figure out what a Jew was, wondering if it was some kind of inside joke by the production team.
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Post by patriciaanne on Nov 14, 2020 17:03:09 GMT -5
Right. Paul. I mixed him up with his father's name.
I've always thought it was curious that Ben couldn't figure out what a Jew was, wondering if it was some kind of inside joke by the production team.
I think it was mostly to show how segregated they were back then and likely none of the kids would have met any Jewish people. It's just a coincidence that Eric is Jewish. I think Kami is too. What's really funny is that when I was watching these shows as a kid, and people would talk about discrimination against Jewish people, I was so confused. I used to ask how could Jews be discriminated against when "everyone is Jewish." That was my perception growing up in an apartment building in the city. I was raised Catholic and I thought we were the minority. |
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Post by journaler on Dec 4, 2020 8:10:05 GMT -5
I agree. The editing is sometimes annoying. What especially bothers me is how the Insp editors butcher Jerry Goldsmith's 90 second theme song-a glorious masterpiece-by cutting it down to an overcaffeinated 25 second version. Mute button. I can't complain too much though, because I'm grateful that the network airs this wonderful show twice a day!
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Post by e knight on Dec 4, 2020 12:19:19 GMT -5
In addition to the editing, stations have been known to speed up the programming by some small per cent so as to make more time for commercials! It's supposed to be so slight as to be undetectable, and supposedly they adjust the audio pitch so that the voices don't get squeaky, but I'll bet that long-time viewers can detect this.
I notice that some cable channels show half-hour programs from the 1960s and 1970s in 35-minute (or even 37-minute) slots to avoid cutting them. You'd think they could do that for The Waltons and similar shows. They might have to use a 75-minuite slot, which would be awkward, but then two shows would fill two and a half hours, so it should be workable.
Still, with more and more commercials, more and more viewers will get disgusted and tune out. Their ratings will drop, and their solution will be to sell more commercial time at lower rates to compensate, and the cycle will continue.
Gosh, do you think that if you gave the viewers a nicer package with fewer annoyances, it might encourage more people to watch? That if the ad people used shorter, quieter, more intelligent commercials, their products would sell better?
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Post by jason88cubss on Dec 4, 2020 12:59:29 GMT -5
It's a pain but it ain't changing. sorry. it does get annoying
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Post by carol on Dec 4, 2020 16:06:23 GMT -5
To me the amount of commercials is getting out of hand. I know commercials is what pays for the show to be on the air but enough is enough. Not long ago I timed how long each commercial break lasted while watching an episode of The Waltoms. When done I timed 20 minutes of show and 40 minutes of commercials. That is ridiculous.
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Post by tommyc on Dec 4, 2020 22:54:56 GMT -5
I agree about the amount of commercials. It is getting ridiculous. Late night talk shows are mostly commercials. One of my favorite current shows is Live Rescue. But they have like 5 minutes of commercials for every 4 minutes of show.
My biggest pet peeve right now is YouTube. OMG! The commercials are getting out of hand there. They now have commercials that pop up in videos that are longer than 8 minutes. Sometimes the commercials pop up every 2 or 3 minutes.
I rarely watch live tv anymore. I DVR everything I want to watch so I can fast forward through the commercials.
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Post by carol on Dec 5, 2020 1:04:57 GMT -5
I was watching something on cable not long ago. I can't remember what it was but one of the commercial breaks was a 8 minute infomercial for a skin care product.
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Post by e knight on Dec 6, 2020 19:35:24 GMT -5
I'd swear that two-thirds of all the commercials were for Medicare supplement plans. Now, maybe I just watch stuff aimed at old folks, but I really think that these are everywhere! They all say that the deadline is fast approaching (I think it's supposed to be December 7), but they said that last years, and the commercials went on into next year and all year long. (The other day I heard Joe Namath's voice and hurried to change the channel. Turned out it wasn't his ubiquitous commercial, but in fact, he was a guest commentator on the college football game I had been planning to watch.)
I get mail and phone calls for the same stuff every day as well. I've gotten so annoyed that I dump the mail solicitations directly into the trash and tell the phone callers to get lost (using stronger terms in reality).
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Post by carol on Dec 6, 2020 19:39:22 GMT -5
I'd swear that two-thirds of all the commercials were for Medicare supplement plans. Now, maybe I just watch stuff aimed at old folks, but I really think that these are everywhere! They all say that the deadline is fast approaching (I think it's supposed to be December 7), but they said that last years, and the commercials went on into next year and all year long. (The other day I heard Joe Namath's voice and hurried to change the channel. Turned out it wasn't his ubiquitous commercial, but in fact, he was a guest commentator on the college football game I had been planning to watch.) I get mail and phone calls for the same stuff every day as well. I've gotten so annoyed that I dump the mail solicitations directly into the trash and tell the phone callers to get lost (using stronger terms in reality). If not Medicare it's prescription drug commercials. As if we can go to the doctor and say I have these symptoms and I want this medicine. |
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Post by isumpin on Dec 6, 2020 19:44:10 GMT -5
I'd swear that two-thirds of all the commercials were for Medicare supplement plans. Now, maybe I just watch stuff aimed at old folks, but I really think that these are everywhere! They all say that the deadline is fast approaching (I think it's supposed to be December 7), but they said that last years, and the commercials went on into next year and all year long. (The other day I heard Joe Namath's voice and hurried to change the channel. Turned out it wasn't his ubiquitous commercial, but in fact, he was a guest commentator on the college football game I had been planning to watch.) I get mail and phone calls for the same stuff every day as well. I've gotten so annoyed that I dump the mail solicitations directly into the trash and tell the phone callers to get lost (using stronger terms in reality). I so agree... Its One of my pet peeves. If its available let them have it without signing up. And get better spokespeople. No one is that cheerful about insurance.... |
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