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Post by pinkbaker07 on Oct 12, 2020 17:49:12 GMT -5
Aside from Bens treatment of Cindy at first. I'm not sure what the problem is.
They lived in a different time back then.
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Post by wendyw33 on Sept 15, 2023 15:11:29 GMT -5
^ I It was not abusive. On the Waltons, it was caring, so a woman didn't have to go out and take a second job on top of what she did at home. None of you have any idea (unless you are farmer's wives with 7 kids) of how much work they did back then in the Depression! In the home. Much harder than any housework and cooking that is done today. And Olivia DID get a job, several times.. she also returned to become a teacher after the kids were grown. And if you ever want to feel lazy, just watch Grandma Walton work! Lol. No man ever 'puts me down' without my consent, as far as your other example, and men have NO RIGHT to tell their wife not to work. Marriage is a partnership, that includes money, Any money earned in a marriage does not belong to you; it belongs to you and the partner equally. Legally.
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Post by wendyw33 on Sept 15, 2023 15:16:57 GMT -5
That depends on the family. A woman's place was NOT 'in the kitchen' in my family history! 1950's included! And barefoot and pregnant is another stupid, meaningless term, as women did not generally go around barefoot, and they WANTED to have kids, most of them! Look at the women of today-- younger women still saying 'I want kids'. All the women in my family married mostly a doctor, lawyers or men that made a good enough living so they had the LUXURY of not having to work.
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Post by wendyw33 on Sept 15, 2023 15:18:08 GMT -5
And look at the way Ben acted when he and Cindy first got married. Ben was ALWAYS angry from the time he was a teenager, and she should have picked up on that before marrying him. She didn't even know him when they got married. They hadn't dated long enough.
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Post by wendyw33 on Sept 15, 2023 15:22:08 GMT -5
^ Don't listen to them. There are a lot of female clergy and they're being more accepted all the time.
Have you ever seen The Vicar of Dibley? Gerry (Dawn French) made no secret of 'having the hots' for actor Sean Bean.
It an hilarious British comedy filled with delicious characters:
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Post by wendyw33 on Sept 15, 2023 15:23:34 GMT -5
..and that character's behavior was DISGUSTING. Filthy-mouthed, full of lust and gross. She didn't show one single quality of Christianity in that entire series, and I watched it. ALICE was much more pious and a much better person than her. She was disgusting, the 7 deadly sins, she used them all.
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Post by wendyw33 on Sept 15, 2023 15:28:40 GMT -5
The person that wrote something 'that's how it was in the 1930's'- uh, NO. It wasn't. My grandfather married my grandma in November of 1930, and he never once said 'I'll break your neck'. My paternal grandparents were also married in the 30's, and never once did she relay that any kind of language like that occurred .. and she lived nearly 94 years. I wouldn't stay with a husband who said that to me, and if you do, you are getting disrespected and must not think anything of yourself. Although Olivia had her moments of appearing very strong, she basically seemed like a VERY depressed person to me! And angry. She never got excited about anything, even happy things, even when she was smiling, she used that vague, deadened voice. I can't believe no one else has ever commented on this. She lacked the warmth (as did all the characters) of Little house on the prairie.
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Post by wendyw33 on Sept 15, 2023 15:30:50 GMT -5
Aside from Bens treatment of Cindy at first. I'm not sure what the problem is. They lived in a different time back then. My grandparents were married in 1930 and the 1930's respectively, and no, they did not treat each other that way.
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Post by wendyw33 on Sept 15, 2023 18:02:30 GMT -5
Aside from Bens treatment of Cindy at first. I'm not sure what the problem is. They lived in a different time back then. I am watching 'The house' for the first time right now from season 4, and (smh) I don't like how dear, sweet Grandpa (as he normally was) puts his hand on grandma (!!!) when they are arguing about tearing down the house. He pokes her on the back! No way. Uh uh. Don't ever put your hands on a woman. And he wasn't doing it like a light tap to get her attention, either, like when someone's back is turned, he was mad and said 'What's gotten into you, old woman?!" and they were way too handsy with each other in anger, smh. Also, the way that father threw Ben across the room when he was older and used to grab them by their shirt collars was also abusive. And remember when Ben says to Grandma 'Look, grandma , just because you used to take a broom to grandpa every once in awhile' wow, also abusive. People need to know that is abuse. That father John was a JERK who needed a temper check, despite all his niceties.
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Post by whisper on Sept 15, 2023 19:43:42 GMT -5
..and that character's behavior was DISGUSTING. Filthy-mouthed, full of lust and gross. She didn't show one single quality of Christianity in that entire series, and I watched it. ALICE was much more pious and a much better person than her. She was disgusting, the 7 deadly sins, she used them all. It's called irony , you are not supposed to take it seriously.
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Post by Sussie of Teckelhut Acres on Sept 16, 2023 14:44:44 GMT -5
One thing to remember. This took place in the south. I have a lot of friends in the south and a lot of them still stick to traditions they held back then. a lot of them still believe that a woman's place is in the home. Especially in the Bible belt which is where this show took place. They went by what the Bible said about women. The same thing I say about their beliefs is no different then what I tell people about Native Americans. Don't expect them to understand your way of life anymore that you don't understand theirs. Just let them be who they are. Thats all I have to say about this.
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Post by Johnny on Sept 16, 2023 23:17:50 GMT -5
It was a different time, in fact I remember in one episode Olivia said something along the lines of "Men do work outside of the house, women do work inside the house" This is exactly the behavior of two Afghan refugee families I know (with 7 & 9 children respectively). Women do the cooking, the washing, the cleaning and looking after the children. Although with so many siblings, the older ones do take care of the younger ones too. Men shovel the snow, dig up fence posts, carry heavy things and go out to work. Also, in their religious culture, they believe wives must always obey their husbands. If they stay in America, it may take another two generations before they may consider modifying gender behaviors.
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Post by Johnny on Sept 16, 2023 23:38:27 GMT -5
One thing to remember. This took place in the south. I have a lot of friends in the south and a lot of them still stick to traditions they held back then. a lot of them still believe that a woman's place is in the home. Especially in the Bible belt which is where this show took place. They went by what the Bible said about women. I wouldn't call Virginia, "the south" . It is more like the middle. But I understand your meaning. I was thinking about what someone else mentioned about keeping their wives barefoot. I've noticed people who live in warmer parts of the country, do like going barefoot. Not just wives, the whole family. I knew a health professional who was from South Carolina. When I was invited to his home for a picnic in the summer in New England, I noticed him walking around outside barefoot. I asked him about this and he said we all walk around barefoot back home. Remember the Walton children in earlier episodes, would often be barefoot.
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Post by Sussie of Teckelhut Acres on Sept 17, 2023 21:30:03 GMT -5
Tell someone from Virginia and West By God Virginia that they are not southern and you might have a fight on your hands. I have relatives there so I have been strongly corrected.
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Post by patriciaanne on Sept 18, 2023 6:59:04 GMT -5
Well I'd hate to think I'm a traitor to my gender or anything but...I'm neither an Afghan refugee nor a Southerner and I still make my husband dinner every night, do the laundry and clean the house. He services our farm equipment, feeds the horses in the a.m. (when I'm working), maintains the fence, plows snow, puts up hay, picks up the horse feed, and any number of other things I can't even remember. He tends to go to town more than I do,so he often picks up some groceries, although he gets cranky if I give him more than 5 things to get. (When we have significant grocery shopping, I put the order in online and we pick it up.) I do the gardening -- and watering -- until August when my 3 to 3.5 months of a full-time schedule at work begins. Then he has to take that over. It works well for us. I do want to start driving the tractor and learn how to use the snow plow. He is 7 years older than I am and if I find myself here alone, I want to know how to operate everything.
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