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Post by jason88cubss on Oct 5, 2020 20:35:34 GMT -5
In the Rebellion, Olivia is up stairs with Erin and Mary Ellen talking about a new hairstyle and this ocnversation takes place
Erin:Well, you got it short, and that's what I like.
Olivia:I sure would.
John:Break your neck.
Mary Ellen:Well, she'd look like Claudette Colbert.
John:Don't cut your hair.
Olivia:John Walton, I'll cut my hair if I want to.
John: Don't! Don't you two encourage her. Don't cut your hair.
Mary Ellen:He means it, Mama.
Olivia:Well, so do I.
I was shocked that John would say "Break your neck" to his wife. That was just really out of character and very dark. We NEVER saw John act in a abusive way so to hear him say "Break your neck" was really a shock and kinda scary tbh
I'm surprised that wa sleft in
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Post by Easton on Oct 5, 2020 20:44:22 GMT -5
I've never taken it as a threat. I've always taken it as 'Don't you dare.'
In other words, John liked Olivia's hair just as it was. It would be the same if Grandpa contemplated cutting his hair or shaving his moustache.
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Post by jason88cubss on Oct 5, 2020 21:08:33 GMT -5
I've never taken it as a threat. I've always taken it as 'Don't you dare.'
In other words, John liked Olivia's hair just as it was. It would be the same if Grandpa contemplated cutting his hair or shaving his moustache.
Yea I can see where your coming from but it still is a horrible thing to say. It just seemed out of character for him with how he always was with Olivia |
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Post by Easton on Oct 5, 2020 21:31:43 GMT -5
John wasn't a violent or abusive man. It was nothing more than an empty threat telling Olivia that he loved her long hair.
It was a common phrase 'back in the day'.
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Post by e knight on Oct 5, 2020 22:03:36 GMT -5
Right. Remember how Ralph Kramden was always threatening to sock Alice "to the Moon." This was just for outrageous humor, as it was clear that he was very protective of her.
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Post by whisper on Oct 6, 2020 2:24:53 GMT -5
That always jarred with me, it seemed so out of character, and unnecessary.
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Post by pinkbaker07 on Oct 7, 2020 15:42:06 GMT -5
I remember the scene but not John saying that.
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Post by patriciaanne on Oct 7, 2020 16:00:26 GMT -5
It does seem out of character for John. He was far more understanding about a young would-be suitor having an interest in Olivia, which is a bit odd when you think of it. I would chalk it up to a different writer. But most of us do engage in a little violent hyperbole every now and then. How many times I've said to various people..."I'm going to kill you." I try to avoid that particular hyperbolic comment these days because people don't seem to have a sense of humor anymore. I'd rather not have to explain to a future employer why I was arrested for making terroristic threats. 🙄
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Post by pinkbaker07 on Oct 7, 2020 16:31:38 GMT -5
It does seem out of character for John. He was far more understanding about a young would-be suitor having an interest in Olivia, which is a bit odd when you think of it. I would chalk it up to a different writer. But most of us do engage in a little violent hyperbole every now and then. How many times I've said to various people..."I'm going to kill you." I try to avoid that particular hyperbolic comment these days because people don't seem to have a sense of humor anymore. I'd rather not have to explain to a future employer why I was arrested for making terroristic threats. 🙄 Especially if they wind up dead 😁 |
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Post by patriciaanne on Oct 7, 2020 17:29:46 GMT -5
It does seem out of character for John. He was far more understanding about a young would-be suitor having an interest in Olivia, which is a bit odd when you think of it. I would chalk it up to a different writer. But most of us do engage in a little violent hyperbole every now and then. How many times I've said to various people..."I'm going to kill you." I try to avoid that particular hyperbolic comment these days because people don't seem to have a sense of humor anymore. I'd rather not have to explain to a future employer why I was arrested for making terroristic threats. 🙄 Especially if they wind up dead 😁 Right -- that would be inconvenient! Last December my husband walked into the open cargo door of my SUV, which was parked in the garage. He caught the edge of it with his head and it was quite the mess, as he bled on the garage floor. I said, "Don't you DARE go missing while this blood is on the floor!" 🤣 |
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Post by jjlinden on Oct 7, 2020 20:07:26 GMT -5
If he had broken her neck they could have done another episode where she was paralyzed.
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Post by tommyc on Oct 8, 2020 21:15:52 GMT -5
Right -- that would be inconvenient! Last December my husband walked into the open cargo door of my SUV, which was parked in the garage. He caught the edge of it with his head and it was quite the mess, as he bled on the garage floor. I said, "Don't you DARE go missing while this blood is on the floor!" 🤣 That's funny that thought came into your mind. The other day my ex-wife visited and when she was getting ready to leave she was on the landing leading down the basement stairs. She was leaning forward to put on her shoes and I told her please don't fall down the stairs. I can see it now... Man claims ex-wife fell down stairs while putting on shoes, Authorities believe he pushed her. I was watching an old Forensics Files a while back and there was a similar scenario. They charged the guy with murder. Luckily an expert determined and the jury believed the wife really did accidentally fall down the steps while carrying laundry and wasn't pushed. |
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Post by patriciaanne on Oct 9, 2020 11:09:07 GMT -5
Right -- that would be inconvenient! Last December my husband walked into the open cargo door of my SUV, which was parked in the garage. He caught the edge of it with his head and it was quite the mess, as he bled on the garage floor. I said, "Don't you DARE go missing while this blood is on the floor!" 🤣 That's funny that thought came into your mind. The other day my ex-wife visited and when she was getting ready to leave she was on the landing leading down the basement stairs. She was leaning forward to put on her shoes and I told her please don't fall down the stairs. I can see it now... Man claims ex-wife fell down stairs while putting on shoes, Authorities believe he pushed her. I was watching an old Forensics Files a while back and there was a similar scenario. They charged the guy with murder. Luckily an expert determined and the jury believed the wife really did accidentally fall down the steps while carrying laundry and wasn't pushed. I definitely watch too many Hallmark Murder Mysteries. 😁 Anyway...everyone knows it's always the spouse/lover/partner. 😉 Good call on asking your ex-wife to back away from the staircase! |
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Post by goodnight on Oct 9, 2020 19:07:29 GMT -5
Right -- that would be inconvenient! Last December my husband walked into the open cargo door of my SUV, which was parked in the garage. He caught the edge of it with his head and it was quite the mess, as he bled on the garage floor. I said, "Don't you DARE go missing while this blood is on the floor!" 🤣 That's funny that thought came into your mind. The other day my ex-wife visited and when she was getting ready to leave she was on the landing leading down the basement stairs. She was leaning forward to put on her shoes and I told her please don't fall down the stairs. I can see it now... Man claims ex-wife fell down stairs while putting on shoes, Authorities believe he pushed her. I was watching an old Forensics Files a while back and there was a similar scenario. They charged the guy with murder. Luckily an expert determined and the jury believed the wife really did accidentally fall down the steps while carrying laundry and wasn't pushed. The above post makes me think of local legend from my neck of the woods, southern West Virginia. There's this story about how in the late 1800's a woman named Zona Heaster Shue was found dead in her home. The way her husband was acting was suspicious. He wouldn't let anyone near her head or neck. After she was buried, her mother, Mrs. Heaster started having dreams that Zona appeared to her and told her that the husband had strangled her and broke her neck. Mrs. Heaster convinced authorities to exhume and do an autopsy. Sure enough, she had been killed, by her husband. The legend is known as "The Greenbrier Ghost". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenbrier_GhostBelow is what appeared on a historical marker in the area. Interred in nearby cemetery is Zona Heaster Shue. Her death in 1897 was presumed natural until her spirit appeared to her mother to describe how she was killed by her husband Edward. Autopsy on the exhumed body verified the apparition's account. Edward, found guilty of murder, was sentenced to the state prison. Only known case in which testimony from a ghost helped convict a murderer.
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Post by sdw on Oct 10, 2020 19:15:29 GMT -5
Goodnight Sharyn McCrumb wrote a book about The Greenbriar Ghost,the name of the book is The Unquiet Grave,it was a very good book. I have the book, and it is signed by the author.
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