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Post by dayton3 on Jul 30, 2021 12:17:56 GMT -5
It should be noted that after World War Two began, several times it was noted that John Walton's lumber mill was considered a "militarily vital" business (obviously he produced a lot of lumber for the U.S. Army). Given that its not unreasonable to suppose that John Walton got significantly more rare items than the average person.
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Post by AuntieEm on Jul 30, 2021 12:29:29 GMT -5
^ There is iced tea and iced coffee. Ever thought of iced hot chocolate? They were actually selling that at one of our local coffee spots. My old head couldn’t figure out the idea of “iced hot chocolate “.
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Post by tommyc on Jul 30, 2021 13:18:24 GMT -5
^ There is iced tea and iced coffee. Ever thought of iced hot chocolate? They were actually selling that at one of our local coffee spots. My old head couldn’t figure out the idea of “iced hot chocolate “. Lol, never thought of it. Basically, wouldn't that be chocolate milk?
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Post by Easton on Jul 30, 2021 17:12:53 GMT -5
^ I think drinking cold 'hot chocolate' would be like drinking very rich chocolate milk. In summer, I think it would be very refreshing. Of course, the marshmallows wouldn't melt. They'd just float on top forever. Then again, you'd have something to eat when you drank all of the chocolate.
Win win!
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Post by kelliekay on Aug 3, 2021 15:25:45 GMT -5
The Walton's made molasses on one episode because their was no sugar. they sold some of it at Ike's.
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Post by Easton on Aug 3, 2021 15:44:35 GMT -5
^ Indeed. They made it from the sorghum that grew wild on the mountain. They were so dismayed after all the work it took to squeeze out the juices from the sorghum that they had then to boil it down as one must do to maple sap to make syrup.
I'm surprised nobody grew sugar beets during the rationing.
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Post by patriciaanne on Aug 3, 2021 17:17:11 GMT -5
^ Indeed. They made it from the sorghum that grew wild on the mountain. They were so dismayed after all the work it took to squeeze out the juices from the sorghum that they had then to boil it down as one must do to maple sap to make syrup.
I'm surprised nobody grew sugar beets during the rationing.
You don't make maple syrup from sorghum. You get it by tapping maple trees and then have to boil it down. I don't know much about sorghum (will have to look it up). But I do know about maple syrup. I occasionally think about tapping our trees, but haven't yet been brave enough to do it.
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Post by dayton3 on Aug 3, 2021 17:29:33 GMT -5
^ Indeed. They made it from the sorghum that grew wild on the mountain. They were so dismayed after all the work it took to squeeze out the juices from the sorghum that they had then to boil it down as one must do to maple sap to make syrup.
I'm surprised nobody grew sugar beets during the rationing.
Climate in the U.S. isn't exactly the best for sugar beets. By way of example Brazil supplies a huge portion of their fuel needs by growing sugar beets and converting it to alcohol. the U.S. doesn't have that option.
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Post by Easton on Aug 3, 2021 17:30:48 GMT -5
^ I know maple syrup as well. I helped my uncle make it for years when I was a kid until he sold the farm. I was talking about boiling down the sorghum juices as you must boil down maple sap. At least that's how I phrased it. No mention of squeezing sap out of anything.
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Post by patriciaanne on Aug 3, 2021 20:59:59 GMT -5
^ I know maple syrup as well. I helped my uncle make it for years when I was a kid until he sold the farm. I was talking about boiling down the sorghum juices as you must boil down maple sap. At least that's how I phrased it. No mention of squeezing sap out of anything.
Ah, sorry. I figured I misunderstood something there as you do live in the maple syrup capital of the world. 😉
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Post by carol on Aug 4, 2021 0:30:19 GMT -5
^ Indeed. They made it from the sorghum that grew wild on the mountain. They were so dismayed after all the work it took to squeeze out the juices from the sorghum that they had then to boil it down as one must do to maple sap to make syrup. I'm surprised nobody grew sugar beets during the rationing.
You don't make maple syrup from sorghum. You get it by tapping maple trees and then have to boil it down. I don't know much about sorghum (will have to look it up). But I do know about maple syrup. I occasionally think about tapping our trees, but havn't yet been brave enough to do it. If you've ever read Little House In The Big Woods Laura Ingalls Wilder describes in detail the making of maple syrup.
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Post by Johnny on Aug 4, 2021 1:59:49 GMT -5
By way of example Brazil supplies a huge portion of their fuel needs by growing sugar beets and converting it to alcohol. the U.S. doesn't have that option. That sounds like a very energy intensive means of making fuel. The energy/cost equations would go something like this: cost of preparing the soil (fuel & maintenance of tractors), cost of fertilizer & its applicaton, cost of killing weeds, insects & diseases that can compete with or attack the plants, cost of irrigation (unless they use only natural rainfall), cost of harvest (fuel & maintenance of harvester), cost of extraction, separation & purification of alcohol from the beet roots. Cost of labor of the farmer. Sum up the costs of these inputs & compare to how many BTU energy the end product yields per acre (or hectare).
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Post by Johnny on Aug 4, 2021 2:03:26 GMT -5
I don't care for coffee. Mum, Dad, and my older siblings love coffee, but not me I rather have a nice cuppa tea or hot chocolate You still have time to acquire a taste for coffee. I didn't care for it either 'til i went off to Uni. Personally I enjoy a cuppa coffee, tea ( Camellia sinensis), cocao & herbal infusions too.
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Post by patriciaanne on Aug 4, 2021 22:06:33 GMT -5
By way of example Brazil supplies a huge portion of their fuel needs by growing sugar beets and converting it to alcohol. the U.S. doesn't have that option. That sounds like a very energy intensive means of making fuel. The energy equations would go something like this: cost of preparing the soil (fuel & maintenance of tractors), cost of fertilizer & its applicaton, cost of killing weeds, insects & diseases that can compete with or attack the plants, cost of irrigation (unless they use only natural rainfall), cost of harvest (fuel & maintenance of harvester), cost of extraction, separation & purification of alcohol from the beet roots. Sum up the costs of these inputs & compare to how many BTU energy the end product yields per acre (or hectare). Yes, kind of like ethanol production in the U.S., which mostly accomplishes driving up corn prices, which drives up animal feed prices, etc. There's no big boon to the earth when you take into account how ethanol is produced. But it makes people "feel" better.
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Post by tommyc on Oct 30, 2021 22:50:12 GMT -5
On this date in: 1945: The U.S. government announced the end of shoe rationing, effective at midnight.
I never knew even shoes were rationed.
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