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Post by patriciaanne on Sept 12, 2020 19:14:50 GMT -5
I see Corabeth as the Hyacinth Bucket of the 70s.
I truly would like to know who it was that turned her character around in a complete 180 from the shy, insecure, socially inept 'waif' that Ike fell in live with and married to the snobby, pretentious, bossy woman she started to become in her second appearance. It was even worse that Corabeth turned Aimee into a miniature version of herself.
Corabeth was the Jack Palance of the movie"Shane". She was put there for every one to hate. Problem is, she never went away. I enjoyed her, though. She really added another dimension to the show. |
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Post by Easton on Sept 12, 2020 21:27:35 GMT -5
The Baldwin sisters were genuinely upper class but they didn't put themselves above anyone on the mountain. They didn't look down on anyone. It wasn't above them to dangle a fishing line in the water and then wade into it when a fish was actually caught. They weren't above riding in the back of a hay wagon. Nobody was turned away from their door even if they were dresses in overalls with no shirt and bare feet. The Balwins belonged in the community and they fit right in.
In my humble opinion, Corabeth never fit in. She felt she was above everyone else, including her own husband. She never tried to fit in. In fact, she was constantly trying to raise everyone else closer to her imagined level. She was, if you'll pardon the pun, a fish out of water desperate for attention and acceptance. She certainly didn't take criticism very well although she was very adept at dishing it out.
Ronnie was a talented actress, but she took her character over the top in her pretentiousness.
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Post by patriciaanne on Sept 14, 2020 14:27:15 GMT -5
The Baldwin sisters were genuinely upper class but they didn't put themselves above anyone on the mountain. They didn't look down on anyone. It wasn't above them to dangle a fishing line in the water and then wade into it when a fish was actually caught. They weren't above riding in the back of a hay wagon. Nobody was turned away from their door even if they were dresses in overalls with no shirt and bare feet. The Balwins belonged in the community and they fit right in.
In my humble opinion, Corabeth never fit in. She felt she was above everyone else, including her own husband. She never tried to fit in. In fact, she was constantly trying to raise everyone else closer to her imagined level. She was, if you'll pardon the pun, a fish out of water desperate for attention and acceptance. She certainly didn't take criticism very well although she was very adept at dishing it out.
Ronnie was a talented actress, but she took her character over the top in her pretentiousness.
I was going to say that the Baldwins and Corabeth show the difference between old money and new money. But Corabeth never really did get any "money," so she was just delusional. 😁 |
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Post by pinkbaker07 on Sept 24, 2020 16:03:58 GMT -5
As good as Ronnie Claire Edwards was, most of the actors on THE WALTONS held a candle to her. Each role was different and challenging to play in its own way. It is well-known that Ellen Corby did not get along with Edwards because she felt that Corabeth challenged Grandma by adding another "unlikable" character to the ensemble. I think that both of them added dimensions to the show that would not have existed otherwise. Unfortunately both Corby and Edwards are no longer with us.  I had heard that they didn't get along. I always flinch at the scene in Grandma Comes Home, when Corabeth and Ike come rolling up and Corabeth tells Grandma how wonderful it must be for her to be back in the bosom of her family -- in that saccharine sweet voice of hers. And I wonder what must have been going through Ellen's mind. I feel especially bad for Ellen's vulnerability and infirmity there. I don't think that Ellen ever had anything to worry about though. First, I never really considered Grandma unlikable. She was hard and cranky on the outside, but sweet and loving on the inside. I treasure the moments that give you a glimpse of that inner sweetness. And I loved how she didn't suffer fools and how she made up her own mind about things. And I loved her distaste of "big government." 😉 By and large she was a good judge of character, and she often said what everyone else was thinking but didn't say. (A 1930s version of a Shakespearean chorus, one might say.) Her faults -- her jealousy, her impatience, her quick temper -- make her one of the most relatable characters on The Waltons. Now Corabeth -- she was truly unlikable! Both as the simpering little waif trying to wriggle herself into the Waltons' home for a free ride AND the condescending, ungrateful, judgmental witchy witch she turns into. Still, even Corabeth has some inner qualities of merit, to Ronnie's acting credit. But I would choose Esther Walton as my friend over Corabeth Walton Godsey any day. ☺️ I think the waif Cora was worse bc she felt entitled to them taking care of her. 😚 |
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Post by wacokyd on Oct 31, 2020 18:00:39 GMT -5
I've always voted for Corabeth as my least favorite character on the show. But then along comes her sister and the episode becomes the first one in my history of watching the Waltons that I switched channels. I'm wondering if the Administrater would allow me to switch my vote?
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Post by whisper on Nov 1, 2020 8:43:24 GMT -5
I've always voted for Corabeth as my least favorite character on the show. But then along comes her sister and the episode becomes the first one in my history of watching the Waltons that I switched channels. I'm wondering if the Administrater would allow me to switch my vote? I agree!. It was farcical. I guess they were scraping the barrel by then. |
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Post by AR15 on Nov 11, 2020 8:59:29 GMT -5
I really like Corabeth - though as the same time can appreciate that she is not very nice to people, is far too judgemental and has unrealistic expectations of everybody. She'd be very grating if you knew her in real life, but she adds a lot to the show. I did quite like how they portrayed her as quite a tragic character too, highlighting that the biggest victim of this sort of behaviour, is often the person doing it. The Tailspin and The Captive both show this side to her personality quite well. I also rather enjoyed her friendship with Olivia. She obviously thinks very highly of Olivia, but it's clear that Olivia is much less fond of her and seems to tolerate her because they are family (while still caring about her deep down). It was always nice contrasting the two against one another and I think, in a sense, this works quite well in illustrating Olivia's growth as a character. In the earlier seasons (1 and 2 especially) Olivia is guilty of being somewhat judgemental herself (though never to the same extent as Corabeth). As the children age, Olivia becomes more and more laid back, especially when she comes back in The Home Front after leaving in The Parting and for the rest of her time in Season 8. It's like her time apart completed her mellowing process and by then she was nothing but a source of kindness and support (contrast her in Season 7 trying to persuade John that it's okay for Erin to go and visit GW at Camp Lee against her furiously opposing John-Boy's desire to take part in a dance marathon in Season 3). I also love Esther, though I don't think she ever is 'unlikeable' in the way that Corabeth is. Esther is occasionally guilty of forcing others to follow her religious beliefs or family traditions, even when they don't want to. She's at her worst in The Quilting, where I actually feel quite bad for Mary Ellen, who repeatedly made it clear that she didn't want a quilting, but Esther is very harsh to her. Ultimately though, I do have a lot of respect for Esther and the way she stands up for her beliefs, she didn't often do this in a way which was harmful or inconsiderate to others. One of her finest moments was in The Gypsies, where she takes matters into her own hands after seeing the baby mistreated for so long. She also goes on a journey towards becoming more mellow - it's surprising when, in Season 7, she enjoys the jukebox Jim-Bob brings in the house and it's actually Olivia who says they can't keep it there. Early Esther would have been against it too. Her stroke is a noticeable turning point and I think, much like Olivia, the experienced mellowed her (there's also the fact that she thought the stroke was a punishment from God for being too harsh, but Zeb seems to successfully convince her that that was not the case). In her single Season 8 appearance (The Inspiration) Corabeth is again used as a point of contrast, where Esther understands that Drew and Elizabeth need to be alone and stops Corabeth from going outside to interfere with them. Early Esther would definitely have opposed two young people being alone together at night. Despite her mellowing though, she never loses her toughness, which I really like about her. Corabeth and Esther are do different, with Esther always adopting a "no nonsense" approach to life, while Corabeth liked to indulge in lots of fancy "nonsense" and while both occasionally displayed negatively personality traits, they played very different roles in the series  |
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