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Post by Brenda on Dec 30, 2018 7:50:34 GMT -5
Jeri, My sister was also part of the trial vaccines. She was in the second grade when apparently they were using second graders across the country in their trials. Do you want to know how many times my sister was vaccinated for polio? - 2nd grade trial of Salk vaccine
- After the trial, she was re-vaccinated with Salk vaccine
- Sabin vaccine (sugar cubes)
- After high school, she went to nursing school and was re-vaccinated for all the childhood illnesses including polio.
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Post by JeriJet on Dec 30, 2018 10:03:50 GMT -5
Jeri, My sister was also part of the trial vaccines. She was in the second grade when apparently they were using second graders across the country in their trials. Do you want to know how many times my sister was vaccinated for polio? - 2nd grade trial of Salk vaccine
- After the trial, she was re-vaccinated with Salk vaccine
- Sabin vaccine (sugar cubes)
- After high school, she went to nursing school and was re-vaccinated for all the childhood illnesses including polio.
You have me thinking about my mom, who was an RN... she was in nursing school circa 1935-38... I'm thinking that, back then, the only vaccine was for small pox, right ?! I'm off to investigate the history of vaccines !! ...
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Post by carol on Dec 30, 2018 19:09:16 GMT -5
My thought on The Easter Story is how did Olivia contract polio? She doesn't leave the farm very often except to go to Ikes and to go to church and we don't know of anyone else having it. Since she went to church sick there probably would have been a quarantine since she exposed everyone she came in direct contact with in the church. You are contagious from 7-10 days before the onset of symptoms and for up to 6 months after you become ill. In addition to its being highly contagious, all you needed was a stagnant stream, lake, or even puddle.... for the mosquitos to breed in... It's been pretty well eradicated in the U.S. for years -- not sure about elsewhere on the planet, but I bet there continues to be a problem in Asia and Africa. Back in Olivia's time, they didn't know much about the disease, so I doubt if quarantine was immediately considered. Hard to tell what might have happened if John-Boy hadn't stepped in and researched as much as he could. I was part of the earliest "trial" vaccines (early 1950's, about 6 or 7 years old) -- both Salk and Sabin -- Polio was a very scary thing back then, and you didn't know whether you'd gotten a vaccine or placebo... My folks were particularly watchful when we spent summers on my grandmother's farm -- plenty of places for those darn mosquitoes to breed in. My mom told me that back then when someone was sick with a highly contagious disease like polio,whooping cough and the like the house was quarantined and no one could leave the property until it was lifted and a quarantine sign was put on the door. Only the doctor could come and go from the home. Mom also told me that my grandmother made sure mom got the whooping cough vaccine when it came out. Mom's uncle ( grandma's baby brother) who was more like an older brother to mom since he was only 3 years older, didn't get the vaccine and he got the whooping cough. Mom was around him every day and never got the whooping cough.
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Post by JeriJet on Dec 30, 2018 20:10:40 GMT -5
My mom told me that back then when someone was sick with a highly contagious disease like polio,whooping cough and the like the house was quarantined and no one could leave the property until it was lifted and a quarantine sign was put on the door. Only the doctor could come and go from the home. Mom also told me that my grandmother made sure mom got the whooping cough vaccine when it came out. Mom's uncle ( grandma's baby brother) who was more like an older brother to mom since he was only 3 years older, didn't get the vaccine and he got the whooping cough. Mom was around him every day and never got the whooping cough. Not entirely sure what you mean by "back then" -- presumably when Olivia had polio -- so, 1930's.... Although there were several quarantine attempts (beginning with Yellow Fever) under state and local jurisdictions, the federal government slowly gained degrees of authorization beginning in 1878, more in 1892, fully nationalized in 1921... But, it wasn't until 1944 when the Public Health Service Act clearly established the federal government's quarantine authority.. this was intended to cover mostly diseases coming into the U.S. from foreign countries... became part of HEW in 1953, and was then transferred to the CDC in 1967. It appears that in Olivia's time there were no hard-and-fast rules or laws -- we relied on the common sense of friends, relatives, neighbors... quarantine signs were common (purely as a warning), but no enforceable law. It was handled different ways in different communities.
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Post by goldfinch1 on Dec 30, 2018 21:39:40 GMT -5
Sad to say, neither of these episodes would make a list of my favorites, even a top hundred.... and, I'm not at all sure why this is true. Of the two, I guess An Easter Story is easier for me to take, but The Ordeal didn't do the trick -- not very realistic to me, questionable acting, and even a bit boring.... oh jeri, the scene with jb and john sr on the mountain is classic I agree its one my very favorite scenes. Wonderful dialogue between them both, and so moving, beautiful acted too!🌸
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