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Post by goodnight on Mar 15, 2014 23:34:10 GMT -5
Perhaps the episode about Sylvia is omitted so parents won't have to be explaining what happened to Sylvia. But if, as you say, it's on during the day when children would mostly be in school... The episode with the blind school fire is one I wish was never made. It's the "jumping the shark" moment for me for Little House. It was brutal and disturbing. And the way they set it up that Alice and the baby got trapped in the house was so contrived. I totally agree with the school catching on fire. It was just awful and really not necessary. There were a couple of things going on though with the cast. Biggest one was Michael Landon offered Merlin Olsen his own show, so they wanted an exit story for his family. Also, Melissa sue Anderson really had not plot or story, so every few months she had some disaster take place. She left a few seasons after that because she said there was no reason for her character. Little house got a little too 80s social in some episodes, but so did the Walton's. and both shows Had just god awful tv movies. Both guilty of not sticking to reality. I enjoy both though. Well if Hersha Paraday who played Alice wanted to leave as well, why was it necessary to kill her character? They could have had drama (not melodrama) having a blind couple raising a sighted child along with their blind students.
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Post by mtdawg on Mar 16, 2014 3:17:20 GMT -5
Goodnight..I have no clue. Ask the actors...I was just proving info from the books I read.
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Post by Alexis From Texas on Mar 16, 2014 7:47:32 GMT -5
Oh, I enjoy Little House, don't get me wrong! LOL I don't mean to pour the haterade on. I just like that the Waltons handles the social issues a lot better. Like when the Godsey's have the sign up listing the service men from waltons mountain and have them segregated based on color-that's more like probably how reality was, their attitudes towards seperation between the races. It didn't make them villians it made them reflective of the time period, it made them look like they were written for the time period they were supposed to be in. Little House had to have their villains, a bad guy and Michael Landon or Melissa Gilbert had to go fight it out. And yes, it was Ma in the books that objected to Almanzo. I think Pa and Almanzo were friends.
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Post by patriciaanne on Mar 16, 2014 8:57:14 GMT -5
Oh, I enjoy Little House, don't get me wrong! LOL I don't mean to pour the haterade on. I just like that the Waltons handles the social issues a lot better. Like when the Godsey's have the sign up listing the service men from waltons mountain and have them segregated based on color-that's more like probably how reality was, their attitudes towards seperation between the races. It didn't make them villians it made them reflective of the time period, it made them look like they were written for the time period they were supposed to be in. Little House had to have their villains, a bad guy and Michael Landon or Melissa Gilbert had to go fight it out. And yes, it was Ma in the books that objected to Almanzo. I think Pa and Almanzo were friends. I do like that about The Waltons. They tried to show things the way they were as much as possible--not a revisionist, politically correct version. Although they did concede on the issue of segregation. I read that Earl Hamner said his own community was segregated when he was growing up so would not have had any people of color there. In reality, there would have been no Verdie and she would not have been friends with the Waltons. But I'm glad they took some artistic license with that, while still staying true to the overall spirit of the times. I love Lynn Hamilton and the character she portrayed and I think the series would have been lacking something had she not been in it.
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Post by JeriJet on Mar 16, 2014 11:53:49 GMT -5
I just don't think it makes much sense to compare/contrast the two shows -- both were wonderful additions to our tv viewing.... they portrayed such different times, different places, with the inherent different tribulations and focus.... I do dislike knowing, however, that LHP always beat out The Waltons in the ratings (except for their first year) -- Now, that bothers me a bit !!
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Post by mtdawg on Mar 16, 2014 17:55:34 GMT -5
Oh, I enjoy Little House, don't get me wrong! LOL I don't mean to pour the haterade on. I just like that the Waltons handles the social issues a lot better. Like when the Godsey's have the sign up listing the service men from waltons mountain and have them segregated based on color-that's more like probably how reality was, their attitudes towards seperation between the races. It didn't make them villians it made them reflective of the time period, it made them look like they were written for the time period they were supposed to be in. Little House had to have their villains, a bad guy and Michael Landon or Melissa Gilbert had to go fight it out. And yes, it was Ma in the books that objected to Almanzo. I think Pa and Almanzo were friends. Oh, I know you not mad at me..lol. Litte house burned through a bunch of characters. Part of me thinks that is what Landon learned from Bonanza, but that is just a guess. Walton's kept a core of support cast throughout the run, which made it unique. As far as ratings, little house had Monday night at 8, which was very conducive for family time and let's face it..Landon was a star. I agree with jeri..two very different shows, yet they always get lumped together. I like both.
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Post by coriscapnskip on Mar 16, 2014 18:22:06 GMT -5
Okay, you didn't ask, but:
1857, February 13. Almanzo James Wilder is born to James and Angeline Day Wilder on a farm near Malone, New York.
1867, February 7. Laura Elizabeth Ingalls is born to Charles Philip and Caroline Quiner Ingalls in a log cabin near Pepin, Wisconsin.
Dean Butler was born on May 20, 1956 in Prince George, British Columbia, Canada.
Melissa Gilbert was born on May 8, 1964 in Los Angeles, California, USA as Melissa Ellen Gilbert.
Their age difference was less than that of the real-life couple! (A 16-year-old marrying a 26-year-old is still legal in some places but not everywhere.)
Waltons connection--(I'm surprised none of you guys has mentioned this)--Richard Thomas played Charles Ingalls in a TV-movie. I didn't care for the movie overall but liked Thomas in the part better than Michael Landon.
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Post by patriciaanne on Mar 16, 2014 20:37:48 GMT -5
Waltons connection--(I'm surprised none of you guys has mentioned this)--Richard Thomas played Charles Ingalls in a TV-movie. I didn't care for the movie overall but liked Thomas in the part better than Michael Landon. Wow...had no idea and never saw this. What was the name of the movie, if you know? I would love to catch that sometime.
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Post by coriscapnskip on Mar 16, 2014 21:41:55 GMT -5
Waltons connection--(I'm surprised none of you guys has mentioned this)--Richard Thomas played Charles Ingalls in a TV-movie. I didn't care for the movie overall but liked Thomas in the part better than Michael Landon. Wow...had no idea and never saw this. What was the name of the movie, if you know? I would love to catch that sometime.Well, it seems there were two of them! Beyond the Prairie: The True Story of Laura Ingalls Wilder (Video) (1999). This one I didn't know about, and never saw. And Beyond the Prairie: The True Story of Laura Ingalls Wilder Part 2 (TV Movie) (2002), which I saw. He did wonderfully at Pa's "wild dog" impression!
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Post by carol on Mar 16, 2014 22:54:05 GMT -5
I didn't like the Beyond The Prairie movies either.Richard Thomas did a good job as Pa but I couldn't stop thinking John Boy is playing Pa Ingalls. LOL
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Post by ForeverWaltons on Mar 16, 2014 23:33:39 GMT -5
Waltons connection--(I'm surprised none of you guys has mentioned this)--Richard Thomas played Charles Ingalls in a TV-movie. I didn't care for the movie overall but liked Thomas in the part better than Michael Landon. Wow...had no idea and never saw this. What was the name of the movie, if you know? I would love to catch that sometime.
coriscapnskip...We have discussed this on the forum in the past before you joined here (so you had no way to know that). I don't remember the name of the thread though.
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Post by Marilyn on Mar 16, 2014 23:59:44 GMT -5
I just don't think it makes much sense to compare/contrast the two shows -- both were wonderful additions to our tv viewing.... they portrayed such different times, different places, with the inherent different tribulations and focus.... I do dislike knowing, however, that LHP always beat out The Waltons in the ratings (except for their first year) -- Now, that bothers me a bit !! Doesn't matter if it makes sense to one or not.. the fans are enjoying the conversation.
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Post by Alexis From Texas on Mar 17, 2014 1:35:55 GMT -5
Richard Thomas was the best thing about those two Little House movies, but my favorite movie of his is The Christmas Box. It isn't Christmas to me without it.
I really didn't care for the tv little house movies, except for the disney mini-series(pretty close to the books, except they didn't have baby carrie and they were in kansas during the mini-series). I kinda wish that had continued on. I didn't even know it was around and just recently saw it(it was made in 2004 or 2005).
I wish anybody would do a movie about "the long winter" book. It would make such a good movie.
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Post by coriscapnskip on Mar 17, 2014 1:52:33 GMT -5
The Long Winter was just about my favorite of the book series.
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Post by Brenda on Mar 20, 2014 10:04:53 GMT -5
Richard Thomas was the best thing about those two Little House movies, but my favorite movie of his is The Christmas Box. It isn't Christmas to me without it. I really didn't care for the tv little house movies, except for the disney mini-series(pretty close to the books, except they didn't have baby carrie and they were in kansas during the mini-series). I kinda wish that had continued on. I didn't even know it was around and just recently saw it(it was made in 2004 or 2005). I wish anybody would do a movie about "the long winter" book. It would make such a good movie. I love The Long Winter, and I pull it out and read it nearly every winter, but I didn't do that this year, and now it's spring. Maybe I'll read it anyway. It always makes me feel much better about our own winter. I've watched all those Little House movies, the ones with Richard Thomas and the Disney movies. They were okay, but I could still find lots of things to be critical about. I didn't remember that Carrie wasn't in the Disney mini-series. The real Carrie was actually born in Kansas (Aug. 3, 1870), so she should have been included as a young baby. I'll have to look for them and watch them again. Have any of you ever been to DeSmet, SD, in the summertime and seen the outdoor dramas they present there? They choose one of the books that was set in DeSmet and dramatize it in an outdoors amphitheater that is just below the Ingalls homestead. I've been to several of these, and they are always very good and follow the books very accurately. There is also an outdoor drama in Walnut Grove each year called "Fragments of a Dream" based on the years the Ingalls family lived on Plum Creek near Walnut Grove. It is also very good. DeSmet PageantWalnut Grove Pageant
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