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Post by goodnightelizabeth on Oct 13, 2013 14:49:53 GMT -5
I was just wondering if anyone knows the ages of the Waltons kids throughout the seasons.
I know that John Boy was seventeen in season 2 was it?
See why I need help. :-)
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Post by JeriJet on Oct 13, 2013 16:39:46 GMT -5
Unfortunately, there is as much a problem with their ages as there is in other timeline situations.... but, if you stick with the first 3 or 4 seasons, it's pretty consistent.... At one point, I kept careful notes of mentions of their ages in the episodes and made a fairly accurate list of years of birth.... Here it is:
Zeb 1862 or 1865 (conflicting info given in episodes) Esther 8/12/1867 John Sr. 1893 Olivia 1897 John-Boy 1916 (probably late in year) Jason 1919 Mary Ellen 1920 Erin 1921 Ben 1922/23 Jim-Bob 1924 (Jan. or June) Elizabeth 1926/27
Ike Godsey 1901 Ep Bridges 1891
In most episodes the approximate date/season is given -- sometimes in the opening narrative -- so you need to notice what is said in each episode to determine how old the children are at that time....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 11:58:15 GMT -5
Unfortunately, there is as much a problem with their ages as there is in other timeline situations.... but, if you stick with the first 3 or 4 seasons, it's pretty consistent.... At one point, I kept careful notes of mentions of their ages in the episodes and made a fairly accurate list of years of birth.... Here it is: Zeb 1862 or 1865 (conflicting info given in episodes) Esther 8/12/1867 John Sr. 1893 Olivia 1897 John-Boy 1916 (probably late in year) Jason 1919 Mary Ellen 1920 Erin 1921 Ben 1922/23 Jim-Bob 1924 (Jan. or June) Elizabeth 1926/27 Ike Godsey 1901 Ep Bridges 1891 In most episodes the approximate date/season is given -- sometimes in the opening narrative -- so you need to notice what is said in each episode to determine how old the children are at that time.... Appreciate your effort in doing this. As I read this myself, hard to believe my dad was born in the same year as Erin.
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Post by goodnightelizabeth on Oct 14, 2013 13:59:43 GMT -5
Unfortunately, there is as much a problem with their ages as there is in other timeline situations.... but, if you stick with the first 3 or 4 seasons, it's pretty consistent.... At one point, I kept careful notes of mentions of their ages in the episodes and made a fairly accurate list of years of birth.... Here it is: Zeb 1862 or 1865 (conflicting info given in episodes) Esther 8/12/1867 John Sr. 1893 Olivia 1897 John-Boy 1916 (probably late in year) Jason 1919 Mary Ellen 1920 Erin 1921 Ben 1922/23 Jim-Bob 1924 (Jan. or June) Elizabeth 1926/27 Ike Godsey 1901 Ep Bridges 1891 In most episodes the approximate date/season is given -- sometimes in the opening narrative -- so you need to notice what is said in each episode to determine how old the children are at that time.... Thanks for spending the time getting this info. I really appreciate it. Just an interesting something I noticed about Elizabeth's age though is that in season 5 when she is being jessica girl spy Johnboy says to the writer of the girl spy books she is a lovely 13 year old. Then in season 7 is it? Elizabeth celebrates her 13th Birthday! Strange or what? Still I guess the same thing happened in little house on the prairie.
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Post by JeriJet on Oct 14, 2013 14:09:48 GMT -5
There are many, many date/time conflicts during the course of the show... I choose to stick with the first 3-4 years, because it's where they started, and it's more consistent...You'll drive yourself nuts if you think about it too much -- just enjoy the episodes for the story they present.
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Post by kyrila on Oct 14, 2013 20:46:25 GMT -5
You're right about that. Today I watched an episode where it was John Walton's high school reunion---25 years---and he was supposed to have graduated in 1911. In another episode, John couldn't get a government contract because he had NOT graduated high school because he went off to serve in World War 1, which began in 1914, before the graduation ceremony.
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Post by JeriJet on Oct 15, 2013 8:04:26 GMT -5
You're right about that. Today I watched an episode where it was John Walton's high school reunion---25 years---and he was supposed to have graduated in 1911. In another episode, John couldn't get a government contract because he had NOT graduated high school because he went off to serve in World War 1, which began in 1914, before the graduation ceremony. Yeah.... we've gone 'round and 'round about that episode.... most annoying!! And the discrepancies get more and more frequent as the later seasons progress. One example that really "gets" me is Zeb's supposed involvement in the Spanish-American War.... the timing was way off -- he would have been in his mid-thirties with two kids at home -- plus, when it is first mentioned, Esther says she never heard of it and says he's always been a good story-teller!!
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Post by goodnight on Oct 20, 2013 12:04:40 GMT -5
In one of the stories where Grandpa said he didn't want to go to the Rough Riders reunion, it was said that Esther was pregnant with John while Zeb was in Cuba.
In the episode where Jim Bob runs away, his birthdate is said to be in 1924. Which would mean he was 20 in 1944 instead of 17 or 18. It would also mean he was 1 year older than Ben's wife Cindy. When she found out she was adopted, it was said she was born in 1925. Jim Bob was still in school when Ben and Cindy got married so I don't think she was younger than him.
I think it is said that Elizabeth is 12 when JohnBoy goes to NY. And then she has her 13 birthday in the season 7 episode The Changeling.
At least the part about there being a bigger age difference between JohnBoy and Jason than the rest of the kids makes sense because John would have been away at the war (WWI).
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Post by virginiagirl on Oct 20, 2013 19:10:03 GMT -5
It is frustrating and someone said it best, just enjoy each episode for the message it portrays. If you consider the high school graduations of the kids, it becomes even more confusing:
John Boy graduated in the second season and it was stated to be 1934 which agrees with a birth year of 1916
Jason graduated in the third season, but probably wasn't born a year after John Boy if John was away at war
Mary Ellen graduated in the fourth season
Erin graduated in the fifth season and the show eluded to the year of 1937
Which means seasons 6-9 covered about 10 years, but it doesn't really matter. It's still a show of great value and worth!
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Post by JeriJet on Oct 20, 2013 19:17:18 GMT -5
The thing is, goodnight, we can't pay much attention to the various timeframes they mention -- regarding the whole San Juan Hill thing, if John graduated high school in 1911 and married in 1915 at 22, Esther couldn't have been pregnant with him in 1898!! To me, that is one of the most glaring errors they made.... There are many, many examples of these "gems" (as Eric calls them) throughout the series, and there are more and more of them as the seasons go by. You'll note in my list above that Jim-Bob's birthday is either Jan. or June 1924... that's because in one episode it's given as 1/23/24 and in another 6/23/24 -- and that's one of the few times they are actually specific about a date.... sheeeeesh! It used to drive me nuts, but now I let it roll right off!
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Post by goodnight on Oct 20, 2013 23:05:41 GMT -5
At least they were consistent about the 1924 part. And wasn't there a big time jump between say the episode where JohnBoy sees the Hindenburg to when he moves to NY. If the Hindenburg blew up in 1937 and John Curtis was born in 1940. Mary Ellen said she was pregnant in the same episode where JohnBoy leaves. Also John Curtis should have been about 5 when the series ended, he barely looked 3. IMO.
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Post by maxwalton on Oct 21, 2013 8:09:21 GMT -5
At least they were consistent about the 1924 part. And wasn't there a big time jump between say the episode where JohnBoy sees the Hindenburg to when he moves to NY. If the Hindenburg blew up in 1937 and John Curtis was born in 1940. Mary Ellen said she was pregnant in the same episode where JohnBoy leaves. Also John Curtis should have been about 5 when the series ended, he barely looked 3. IMO. Not quite. In the season 3 episode The Secret, John-Boy takes Jim-Bob to the Hall of Records where Jim Bob's birthday is listed as January 13, 1923. As I mentioned in a post elsewhere, that means he would have been plenty old enough to join the Air Corps on December 7, 1941 in Day of Infamy. However, in addition to being a Walton's fan, I am also a fan of science fiction and am quite experienced at suspending disbelief.
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Post by goodnight on Oct 21, 2013 15:29:47 GMT -5
And it would have meant he was 5 years older than Elizabeth if she was only 13 in season 7.
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Post by JeriJet on Oct 21, 2013 16:38:12 GMT -5
At least they were consistent about the 1924 part. And wasn't there a big time jump between say the episode where JohnBoy sees the Hindenburg to when he moves to NY. If the Hindenburg blew up in 1937 and John Curtis was born in 1940. Mary Ellen said she was pregnant in the same episode where JohnBoy leaves. Also John Curtis should have been about 5 when the series ended, he barely looked 3. IMO. Not quite. In the season 3 episode The Secret, John-Boy takes Jim-Bob to the Hall of Records where Jim Bob's birthday is listed as January 13, 1923. As I mentioned in a post elsewhere, that means he would have been plenty old enough to join the Air Corps on December 7, 1941 in Day of Infamy. However, in addition to being a Walton's fan, I am also a fan of science fiction and am quite experienced at suspending disbelief. According to my notes -- S3/E4, The Runaway, his birthdate is given as June 13, 1924.... and in S4/E16, The Secret, it's given as January 13, 1924 (I don't show 1923 anywhere....?) Rats -- now I've got to listen carefully one more time
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Post by glenn on Oct 22, 2013 7:29:16 GMT -5
In 'The Secret' the year of Jim Bob's birth is 1923.
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