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Post by clyde on Feb 2, 2013 10:49:29 GMT -5
In The Wingwalker episode, John Boy was all lovey dovey with Bobbie until he found out she had been attacked by a man. So, was she not pure enough for him anymore? Was he a cad (definition on Google a man who behaves dishonorably. Especially toward women)? Seems as though the writers were a little vaguef here.  |
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Post by River on Feb 2, 2013 10:54:36 GMT -5
We had this conversation awhile back and I can't find it on the search to remember what everyone said, but I think the consensus was "YES!" Maybe someone else can find it.
How strange for his character to act in such a way. Not his normal way of acting in my opinion.
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Post by awesomemixtape10 on Feb 2, 2013 19:01:50 GMT -5
Yeah, it wasnt a high point for Ol John Walton jr.
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Post by AR15 on Feb 2, 2013 19:11:53 GMT -5
No. I'll always defend John-Boy  I don't think John-Boy has any issue about persuing relationships with people who are 'impure' because when he discovers that Daisy had had a child before he knew her, in The Revelation, he still wants to marry her. Also, with Daisy, she was willingly engaged in a sexual relationship, whereas Bobbie was unwilling engaged in one, surely making Bobbie more 'impure'? (sorry if that's offensive terminology, I'm just using that term as it's in the original post, not because I consider either of them not to be 'pure' people!). So I think John-Boy has a different reason for rejecting Bobbie once he learns about what happened to her past. My theory is this: Bobbie's 'attack' is obviously the result of a very immoral person acting on pure lust. John-Boy, I believe, rather than feeling emotionally attached to Bobbie, was just feeling physically attracted, and so when he hears the story, he sees the same lust in the attacker as is inside him. While, obviously, John-Boy would never do as bad as that, he still feels some form of guilt, because his attraction to her is the thing that is a little 'impure' and, of course, there's nothing wrong with that, he's a young man, he's bound to be attracted to people, but by allowing her to think his feelings were any more than lust, he would be leading her on, and so he rejects her. That's my theory anyway ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 20:29:29 GMT -5
Okay, so AR15 you are saying that JB takes the higher moral ground when he rejects Bobbie, where as if he had not known about Bobbie's experience, then he would have continued to peruse her on a purely physical level?
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Post by AR15 on Feb 2, 2013 21:04:24 GMT -5
Okay, so AR15 you are saying that JB takes the higher moral ground when he rejects Bobbie, where as if he had not known about Bobbie's experience, then he would have continued to peruse her on a purely physical level? Yes, more or less. I don't think it would have gone very far though. There seem to be a lot of women who John-Boy grows very attached to very quickly, I think he often mistakes his physical attraction, or lust, for being in love with them (I can't remember her name, but the woman in France is a good example, in my oppinion) and, in the case of Bobbie, I think her telling him her experience helped him to see that his feelings were not that serious after all. Of course, that may be utter rubbish that's just how I like to view things! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 22:31:59 GMT -5
I can see it and I can dig it.
Sometimes we act as if being physically attracted to members of the opposite sex is a crime and that men especially, are pigs if they notice a pretty lady.
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Post by JeriJet on Feb 3, 2013 11:18:03 GMT -5
I always felt that John-Boy was taking the high road in this episode -- once he'd heard her story, he realized that Bobbi needed a true and understanding friend more than she needed a lover, and I believe he was trying to tell her that, but she didn't even try to listen or understand.... I think J-B, being the highly sensitive chap that he was, wanted very much to be of help to Bobbi and not add to her obvious confusion......
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Post by wmfan/waltonsportwriter on Feb 3, 2013 13:06:23 GMT -5
I agree with you on this situation and John Boy was a good and honorable man and thats the way I've always tried to be. Yes I like to talk and look at women, but I go no further than that and I have great respect for all male and female if they deserve it. I think that's what John Boy did in this episode. Bobbie's situation was a tough one to deal with but John Boy and her did about as well as they could with it. Good episode and storyline. WmFan Sportwriter And yes I remember we talked about this before
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Post by clyde on Feb 3, 2013 13:32:49 GMT -5
Yes, looks as though there was discussion about this. I found some comments under "Those Walton Girls Treated Men Bad" - back in about May of 2012. I guess each time that episode comes around, a person such as myself with a bad memory posts about it!
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Post by River on Feb 3, 2013 14:57:26 GMT -5
Clyde,
It is more than OK to repost something again as we have new people and new opinions. I was just hoping someone could find the old post and perhaps link to it so we could remember what others had said. I like what AR15 said.
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Post by ILoveTheWaltons on Feb 3, 2013 15:33:52 GMT -5
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Post by mtdawg on Feb 3, 2013 15:35:58 GMT -5
I always thought John Boy was kind of in shock regarding what happened to Bobbi and he had never encountered that situation previously.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 17:26:08 GMT -5
Fun thread, lets us know who is missing as well as taking us back. But this is not the thread that I was thinking about that dealt with Bobbie. |
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Post by catindakota on Feb 7, 2013 8:10:53 GMT -5
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