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Post by AR15 on Nov 11, 2011 18:18:15 GMT -5
The Waltons never really had a proper final ending the first 'end', The Revel, was never planned to be the final episode was it? It was just a regular episode which had it's ending narration changed as it ended up as the last episode. Then with 'A Walton Easter', the actual final episode, it was originally planned that there would be another episode after it wasn't it? So how would you envision the perfect ending to The Waltons? How would it have been best done if the final episode of Season 9 was planned as the final one? Or what would happen if they made a final reunion movie with the aim of giving The Waltons a proper send-off?
Personally, I quite liked that the end of The Waltons showed us John-Boy having his first son, but it wasn't perfect. For me, the perfect ending would be to have pretty much the status quo of Season 1 restored, but with John and Olivia as the grandparents, John-Boy and Janet as the parents and seven new grandchildren! Then the very ending could be John-Boy driving up to the house in his father's old truck, and in the back he has the family's first colour TV, and everybody could run out to see it (perfectly mirroring the Season 1 opening) what're your oppinions on how The Waltons could have best been ended?
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Post by Marilyn on Nov 11, 2011 19:15:35 GMT -5
Yes, that would just about be perfect with a little tweaking!! Would be nice too, to have John Sr sitting by that old radio with his glasses on, reading a paper and he hears the truck drive up and stops, looks up, looks back down for a sec or two, then back up again and then.... a grin... just like the old opening of the Waltons with JB in his bedroom window. To me, that would be full circle...closure.
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Post by Ryan James on Nov 11, 2011 20:46:39 GMT -5
Yeah, no one realized that the last episode of season 9 would be the final show, as they cancelled it the following year. I'm sure if they knew the show would have been canclled, they would have changed things around in the script. Mary says in her book that they knew the ratings were dropping, due to Ralph and Michael gone and the kids left to carry on the show, but it still came a surprise when they were notified they were done. RYAN-J
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Post by jasonpendleton on Nov 12, 2011 18:20:34 GMT -5
I think if they would have planned to end Season 9 as the "final episode", the focal point could have been Jason and Toni's wedding, since they were engaged but not yet married at that point. That would be a great excuse, obviously, to bring John and Olivia, and Esther back into the picture. Perhaps having Drew propose to Elizabeth would have been a good touch as well. Yes, they were still in high school but becoming engaged at that age would not have been that uncommon for the time period.
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Post by dfnmeows44 on Nov 13, 2011 18:14:16 GMT -5
The reason Drew and Elizabeth did not get married was that Drew became over-anxious. He began to want privileges which belonged to married couples but later he became more cautious. Like when Drew wanted to kiss Elizabeth when they were both in their pajamas and then Erin walked in. Then he wanted to feel that Elizabeth was his sister when Elizabeth said she needed not another brother but a boy friend. Neither was ready to take the final step.
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Post by Marilyn on Nov 13, 2011 19:33:41 GMT -5
Drew and Elizabeth getting married would be a wonderful part of a final Waltons.
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Post by JeriJet on Aug 9, 2014 13:45:34 GMT -5
I only saw The Indescretion today for the first time. I lost interest in the series, after some of the cast fell off. I was disappointed that Elizabeth was not proposed to. With only a partial cast, I found the episode to be sub-standard. Can anyone tell me what year it was supposed to take place in?I found the costumes and style to be a bit confusing. I know that it was after 1941 (as 1941 was referenced) but I could not pinpoint the year. Season 9, Episode 17..... ALL of the later seasons are sub-standard !!
Season 9 opens in the spring of 1945.... by Episode 3 it is summer of 1945.... and by Episode 7, the war in Japan has ended.... from that point on, they mostly refer to "the post-war period"..... Ben probably made it home in early 1946..... Episode 19 refers to spring again -- but it could have been 1946 or '47..... hard to tell because there were a lot of episodes in between, and much happened.....
So, "The Indiscretion took place in late '46 or early '47", I think....
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Post by daniela on Aug 9, 2014 16:55:31 GMT -5
Maybe we can say that, with all the TV movies after the series, that the waltons will never end....I'd be happy with that
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Post by JeriJet on Aug 9, 2014 20:19:49 GMT -5
I guessed that it was in between 1945 and 1950. As I said, the costumes and styles were confusing to me, but I am a city person, and know more about the trends in hubs of population and culture. I'm sure that these "trends" moved to outlying places slowly, so perhaps they did a very good job with the styles of that era (away from the city.) However, the later episodes don't hold my attention. I think that Richard Thomas, Micheal Learned, et al, left the series at the right time, although perhaps the last seasons would have been a success with them. We'll never know. Here's something odd about fashion trends in rural areas -- according to my Mom, the farm girl !! I'm not sure how true this may be -- Mom may have been trying to project to her children a more "worldly" image than she ever had as a kid....
Anyway, she told us that in her small town most of the women and girls made huge efforts to keep up to date on fashion trends -- mainly by looking in magazines at the library (they couldn't afford to buy such things!) and the occasional movie they might see..... then, the rush to make (sew) their own clothes as close as they could get to the "trend", saving to purchase fabric from the Sears catalog !!
Are ya buyin' it ??!!
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Post by Brenda on Aug 9, 2014 21:00:30 GMT -5
Here's something odd about fashion trends in rural areas -- according to my Mom, the farm girl !! I'm not sure how true this may be -- Mom may have been trying to project to her children a more "worldly" image than she ever had as a kid.... Anyway, she told us that in her small town most of the women and girls made huge efforts to keep up to date on fashion trends -- mainly by looking in magazines at the library (they couldn't afford to buy such things!) and the occasional movie they might see..... then, the rush to make (sew) their own clothes as close as they could get to the "trend", saving to purchase fabric from the Sears catalog !! Are ya buyin' it ??!! Jerijet, My mother and her sisters did exactly the same thing in the hills of rural eastern Kentucky. She said my grandmother would get a new Sears catalog every year, and they would study the dress styles, then try to duplicate them when they made their own clothes. Even on the western frontier in the 1800s, Laura Ingalls Wilder described her family doing the same thing. When they were getting Mary ready to go to the college for the blind in Iowa, they wanted to make sure that her clothes were the latest style. A woman in town told them that she heard that hoops were coming back in style, and Ma was stressed over whether or not to make Mary's dresses with hoops. They decided to check with their neighbor, Mrs. Boast, to see if she had a new Godey's Lady's Book, but she didn't, so Ma decided to make Mary's skirts wide enough that she could wear hoops if they did come back in style.
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Post by River on Aug 10, 2014 17:59:40 GMT -5
Here's something odd about fashion trends in rural areas -- according to my Mom, the farm girl !! I'm not sure how true this may be -- Mom may have been trying to project to her children a more "worldly" image than she ever had as a kid.... Anyway, she told us that in her small town most of the women and girls made huge efforts to keep up to date on fashion trends -- mainly by looking in magazines at the library (they couldn't afford to buy such things!) and the occasional movie they might see..... then, the rush to make (sew) their own clothes as close as they could get to the "trend", saving to purchase fabric from the Sears catalog !! Are ya buyin' it ??!! Jerijet, My mother and her sisters did exactly the same thing in the hills of rural eastern Kentucky. She said my grandmother would get a new Sears catalog every year, and they would study the dress styles, then try to duplicate them when they made their own clothes. Even on the western frontier in the 1800s, Laura Ingalls Wilder described her family doing the same thing. When they were getting Mary ready to go to the college for the blind in Iowa, they wanted to make sure that her clothes were the latest style. A woman in town told them that she heard that hoops were coming back in style, and Ma was stressed over whether or not to make Mary's dresses with hoops. They decided to check with their neighbor, Mrs. Boast, to see if she had a new Godey's Lady's Book, but she didn't, so Ma decided to make Mary's skirts wide enough that she could wear hoops if they did come back in style. I think we all should be grateful that hoops are not in style!
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Post by patriciaanne on Aug 10, 2014 23:08:37 GMT -5
Jerijet, My mother and her sisters did exactly the same thing in the hills of rural eastern Kentucky. She said my grandmother would get a new Sears catalog every year, and they would study the dress styles, then try to duplicate them when they made their own clothes. Even on the western frontier in the 1800s, Laura Ingalls Wilder described her family doing the same thing. When they were getting Mary ready to go to the college for the blind in Iowa, they wanted to make sure that her clothes were the latest style. A woman in town told them that she heard that hoops were coming back in style, and Ma was stressed over whether or not to make Mary's dresses with hoops. They decided to check with their neighbor, Mrs. Boast, to see if she had a new Godey's Lady's Book, but she didn't, so Ma decided to make Mary's skirts wide enough that she could wear hoops if they did come back in style. I think we all should be grateful that hoops are not in style! In the 80's I attended a wedding as a guest of someone. The bride's dress (which was her mother's dress) had a hoop skirt. Her bridal party (and it was a big party) had all different pastel dresses with hoops in them. It was a "rainbow wedding." My inner Grandma comes to mind as I think, "Good Lord!" Rainbow pastel hoop bridesmaid dresses...just say NO. On the positive side....her friends must have really loved her.
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Post by JeriJet on Aug 11, 2014 15:31:27 GMT -5
I always wanted one of those dresses like Scarlett O'Hara wore! Yeah, and if ya didn't wear pantaloons, they were nicely cool in the summertime !
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Post by wmfan/waltonsportwriter on Oct 1, 2014 16:46:18 GMT -5
I think on the final episode the Revel Earl Hamner did mention in the closing that he hoped you enjoyed the time watching the Waltons in their great old house so there was some closure but then they decided to make six more movies which were like mini seasons
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Post by Kathy Lee on Feb 25, 2015 9:34:17 GMT -5
It has been a long time since a reunion movie. I think one is due...soon!
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