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Post by woody3d on Jul 26, 2014 6:40:09 GMT -5
In one of the oddest episodes of the series, Elizabeth is tormented by a poltergeist that invades the Walton's home. This episode was created five years before Steven Spielberg's "Poltergeist" theatrical movie became a huge hit. Prior to "The Changeling" (which was Ellen Corby's final episode before her stroke,} I had never heard of a poltergeist before. Do you think Spielberg saw this episode and found some basis on which to make his own movie? That's strange, on my Season 7 DVD, this episode is listed as 'Elizabeth's Poltergeist' (but on the video it IS The Changeling) .. I was wondering, what did you mean this was the last episode before Grandma's stroke? This is 6th episode of season 7 and she had her stroke in season 5 or 6 and only came back the last episode of season 6,.. Am I misunderstanding or God forbid did she have another stroke after this? I hope not she's getting so much better at this point and I just ordered season 8!
Thank you!
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Post by woody3d on Jul 26, 2014 7:00:55 GMT -5
Very different episode for The Waltons for sure. Who knows about Stephen Spielberg - it certainly could be possible. One thing I find interesting about "The Changeling" plot, is Elizabeth seems to have telekinesis, which was a major part of Stephen Kings's novel and movie "Carrie". "Carrie" was released in 1976, two years before The Changling, and was a major box office smash ( it still gives me the creeps to this day), so that makes me wonder if maybe one or more of the writers of The Changling were somewhat influenced by it. Wouldn't it be great to have all the answers and know for sure?! I hope in the future more books are written by the cast and even the crew of The Waltons, Oh, the things we could learn! I was just about to reply to you and say I have that movie CARRIE and while looking for it on my shelf I realized I have the movie SYBIL not Carrie! I am still mixing those two movies up!
Oh I just looked them up and they are Both 1976! Isn't that interesting..
Lets see, Carrie Film came out November 3, 1976 and Sybil (TV Movie) on July 6, 1976 whoa looks like SYBIL came before CARRIE! Maybe Stephen Spielberg WAS affected by it!
I just looked up the books too: Carrie book published: April 5, 1974 and SYBIL book: 1973 by Flora Rheta Schreiber
I guess they are very different stories but they are certainly close enough (and closely enough related in time to me who saw them as a 7 year old in 1976) that I have mixed and merged the two in my mind all my life.
So looks like you are right Steven Spielberg almost certainly saw these high profile projects and would have been affected somehow AND Stephen King wrote Carrie just 1 year after Flora wrote SYBIL. How more fitting that a Female author started this artistic trend towards 'inspection' of the female mind and soul from a psychological nature vs. nurture (or lack of Nurture...) perspective . You made me do a bit of research and I find it fascinating! SYBIL (with the Flying Nun Woman,.. um.. Oh yeah Sally Field and Joanne Woodward,.. THAT movie has haunted me my whole life, the flying headless cat.. head... and the dead cats (I love cats so that's so traumatizing to me) flying around and attacking her in the shed. ugh. What a visceral visual... OK Thank you for spurring me onto some research and a trip down memory lane!
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Post by JeriJet on Jul 26, 2014 7:25:07 GMT -5
I remember being surprised a few years ago when the SYBIL story was declared a hoax ! I have never been very comfortable watching such stories -- whether Sybil, Carrie, nor even The Changeling.... feeling creepy right now !!
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Post by Sussie of Teckelhut Acres on Jul 26, 2014 9:02:46 GMT -5
You know....I never thought about it that way but you might be right. He would have been 26 when The Waltons first aired and I am sure he was drawn to it like everyone else.
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Post by Sussie of Teckelhut Acres on Jul 26, 2014 9:27:07 GMT -5
I remember being surprised a few years ago when the SYBIL story was declared a hoax ! I have never been very comfortable watching such stories -- whether Sybil, Carrie, nor even even The Changeling.... feeling creepy right now !!
That is correct. When Shirley Mason felt she was not getting enough attention from her Psychiatrist, she started faking personalities. The Psychiatrist believed her and began writing a book about her. Later, Shirley admitted to faking but the Dr was so into writing her book that she could not stop nor wanted to. She even went as far as injecting Shirley with sodium pentothal (aka "truth serum") to get Shirley to say some pretty crazy stuff which she put in her book. I do believe in the supernatural. But in the case of Hollywood-ised supernatural I only have an interest in for the special effects. I love special effects. One TV show in particular I had a personal issue with and that is because I knew for a fact it was faked. Paranormal State. My friends in Gold Beach (Oregon) has purchased a house that the believed was haunted. So they contacted A&E about being on the show. It ended up being a big disappointment as A&E tried to script it and play it up and actually aired some things which totally did not happen or were totally against the couple's wishes. |
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Post by patriciaanne on Jul 26, 2014 10:21:36 GMT -5
I love a good scary movie. It's difficult to find movies that genuinely scare me, though. But when I do--I'm delighted.  It's like a good roller coaster ride.
I also love going to haunted places and visiting them. We had a good time doing that in Gettysburg PA. We took the midnight tour of the Orphanage and I got quite a cool photograph of what appears to be a ghostly apparition.
I very much believe in God and I don't feel my interest in these things is at all in conflict with that. I have a strong faith and belief that we live on once we are released from our corporal existence and I do believe that those who have gone on can continue to communicate with us (and we with them).
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Post by patriciaanne on Jul 26, 2014 10:26:52 GMT -5
I don't actually remember Grandma being in this episode at all because I can remember thinking how I'd like to see how she'd react to what was happening. But this is Season 7 so she'd already had her stroke, or did she have a second stroke?  |
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Post by patriciaanne on Jul 26, 2014 10:28:45 GMT -5
Very different episode for The Waltons for sure. Who knows about Stephen Spielberg - it certainly could be possible. One thing I find interesting about "The Changeling" plot, is Elizabeth seems to have telekinesis, which was a major part of Stephen Kings's novel and movie "Carrie". "Carrie" was released in 1976, two years before The Changling, and was a major box office smash ( it still gives me the creeps to this day), so that makes me wonder if maybe one or more of the writers of The Changling were somewhat influenced by it. Wouldn't it be great to have all the answers and know for sure?! I hope in the future more books are written by the cast and even the crew of The Waltons, Oh, the things we could learn!  |
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Post by JeriJet on Jul 26, 2014 11:23:36 GMT -5
I suppose I can see Spielberg being aware of the trendy CARRIE and SYBIL, but doubt very much he was a watcher of The Waltons -- too busy with chasing his career....
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Post by ForeverWaltons on Jul 26, 2014 11:25:11 GMT -5
Very different episode for The Waltons for sure. Who knows about Stephen Spielberg - it certainly could be possible. One thing I find interesting about "The Changeling" plot, is Elizabeth seems to have telekinesis, which was a major part of Stephen Kings's novel and movie "Carrie". "Carrie" was released in 1976, two years before The Changling, and was a major box office smash ( it still gives me the creeps to this day), so that makes me wonder if maybe one or more of the writers of The Changling were somewhat influenced by it. Wouldn't it be great to have all the answers and know for sure?! I hope in the future more books are written by the cast and even the crew of The Waltons, Oh, the things we could learn!
I was nine years old when "JAWS" came out. Don't laugh  but for a couple of months after the movie...I would always look in the toilet bowl before sitting down. I just knew a shark was going to come up through the toilet.  I would also watch the bathtub drain the whole time I was taking a bath. Yep! Thought the shark would come up the bathtub drain. 
I saw "Carrie" as a kid and it was scary...but it did not affect me like "JAWS" did.
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Post by ForeverWaltons on Jul 26, 2014 11:36:29 GMT -5
I love a good scary movie. It's difficult to find movies that genuinely scare me, though. But when I do--I'm delighted. It's like a good roller coaster ride.
I read Stephen King's book, "Pet Sematary", back in 1984. I have never had a book scare me to death like that one did! Using my own imagination to imagine the sounds in the woods, what the animals and the little boy Gage looked like after coming back from the grave, etc.
I was sooo excited when I heard they would be making the book into a movie. I rushed to see it when it was released in 1989. Such a MAJOR disappointment. The movie did not even do any scary sounds from the woods that led to the pet sematary as the book described. If they could have filmed what was in my mind when I read the book...what an experience that would have been!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 11:50:00 GMT -5
Very different episode for The Waltons for sure. Who knows about Stephen Spielberg - it certainly could be possible. One thing I find interesting about "The Changeling" plot, is Elizabeth seems to have telekinesis, which was a major part of Stephen Kings's novel and movie "Carrie". "Carrie" was released in 1976, two years before The Changling, and was a major box office smash ( it still gives me the creeps to this day), so that makes me wonder if maybe one or more of the writers of The Changling were somewhat influenced by it. Wouldn't it be great to have all the answers and know for sure?! I hope in the future more books are written by the cast and even the crew of The Waltons, Oh, the things we could learn! Carrie was a great film. That last scene was cool. I also liked the exorcist with Linda Blair. I saw that when I was 10 and enjoyed it. Linda Blair was a cutie. Even minutes after I saw the film I probably would have gone on a date with her. I loved the part in the film when he head moves all the way around. Neat! |
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Post by patriciaanne on Jul 27, 2014 10:19:37 GMT -5
Carrie was one of the creepiest, scariest movies of all time!!! The last scene was the most frightening. I saw the movie when I was 14 I think and that final scene kept me waking up every night at 4 a.m. for at least two weeks. But soooo worth it!!!! As I said....LOVE scary movies! Carrie was a great film. That last scene was cool. I also liked the exorcist with Linda Blair. I saw that when I was 10 and enjoyed it. Linda Blair was a cutie. Even minutes after I saw the film I probably would have gone on a date with her. I loved the part in the film when he head moves all the way around. Neat! |
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Post by patriciaanne on Jul 27, 2014 10:22:03 GMT -5
I love a good scary movie. It's difficult to find movies that genuinely scare me, though. But when I do--I'm delighted. It's like a good roller coaster ride.
I read Stephen King's book, "Pet Sematary", back in 1984. I have never had a book scare me to death like that one did! Using my own imagination to imagine the sounds in the woods, what the animals and the little boy Gage looked like after coming back from the grave, etc.
I was sooo excited when I heard they would be making the book into a movie. I rushed to see it when it was released in 1989. Such a MAJOR disappointment. The movie did not even do any scary sounds from the woods that led to the pet sematary as the book described. If they could have filmed what was in my mind when I read the book...what an experience that would have been!
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Post by twinkle on Aug 1, 2014 9:31:09 GMT -5
I love a good scary movie. It's difficult to find movies that genuinely scare me, though. But when I do--I'm delighted. It's like a good roller coaster ride.
I read Stephen King's book, "Pet Sematary", back in 1984. I have never had a book scare me to death like that one did! Using my own imagination to imagine the sounds in the woods, what the animals and the little boy Gage looked like after coming back from the grave, etc.
I was sooo excited when I heard they would be making the book into a movie. I rushed to see it when it was released in 1989. Such a MAJOR disappointment. The movie did not even do any scary sounds from the woods that led to the pet sematary as the book described. If they could have filmed what was in my mind when I read the book...what an experience that would have been!
Oh god, that movie ....I was really traumatised by the scene where Gage is running towards the highway and that huge truck is speeding along and the dad is screaming out to him and trying to catch up with him. Then it is left to your imagination what happens next. Made me even more paranoid when out in traffic with my kids. I cannot watch that film again because of that scene...I have too vivid an imagination and having read the book I know what happened to the child when the truck ran over him. Chills me now even to think about it. |
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It's like a good roller coaster ride.
but for a couple of months after the movie...I would always look in the toilet bowl before sitting down. I just knew a shark was going to come up through the toilet. 
I would also watch the bathtub drain the whole time I was taking a bath. Yep! Thought the shark would come up the bathtub drain. 
